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Do you not understand the system at live in is actively dooming us all?

I don’t think that it is dooming us. I cannot imagine a system that would lead to more freedom, better education or innovation.

Why are you so vehemently defending it? Especially when you can acknowledge that other systems can exist?

Even though I acknowledge that other systems have been tried in the past, I also believe that all of them, except capitalism with a few social tweaks, have failed.

Why would you think that companies going bankrupt is somehow worse than people being increasingly unable to live.

Because tons of lives are also depending on the company to keep on running. Making some people’s lives worse will probably not fix the problems of others. Instead the people that are in need of betterment must get a tailored solution. Tailored towards them without the need to completely overhaul a working system.

[-] 80085@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I cannot imagine a system that would lead to more freedom, better education or innovation.

LOL.

Even though I acknowledge that other systems have been tried in the past, I also believe that all of them, except capitalism with a few social tweaks, have failed.

Capitalism fails every ~8 years requiring the use of vast amounts of public funds to keep afloat. I'd also say if fails daily if you look at all the needless suffering occuring in the world today, especially in the most "free market" countries and the countries these exploit. We have "socialism for the rich, capitalism for everyone else," as Jon Stewart would say.

I personally know people that endured the UDSSR. And those stories are not pleasant.

And seeing the anti capitalistic movement being accepting of radical ideas and the idea of using violence and the belief that the vote of the masses (who are in favour of Capitalism) is unimportant, just makes me believe that anti capitalistic movements all strive for what we saw in the UDSSR and today in China.

I only accept political ideas that have been viable for years in other countries without the occurrence of dictatorship. If you are a US citizen, then the wishful view to Western Europe is the only one I’d accept as reasonable.

And as a Western European myself, I can say that even though we currently face massive problems with immigration, life here is still more enjoyable than in the rest do the world.

[-] 80085@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Most leftists in the U.S. are democratic socialists, social democrats, are some flavor of anarchists; not authoritarian socialists.. Most do not think violence is necessary, except for protection against the increasingly fascist right-wing. Many believe it's possible to move closer to a socialist-like society by building mutual-aid networks and communities, and promoting candidates for government positions that align with their values; not through a violent revolution.

And yes, I would prefer systems closer to Scandinavian countries, which the right-wing here calls socialism. Ideally, I would like to see some kind of real socialism where the workers own the means of production (factories, stores, farms, etc) and controls it through democratic processes, not the investor-shareholders or the government. I think the term is anarcho-syndicalism, but I doubt that will happen in my lifetime.

[-] Jimbo@yiffit.net 6 points 1 year ago

Hey guy uhhh

Check the planet. It is literally burning right now and we are all going to either die, or have our lives massively changed by this climate catastrophe.

Technically most of the planet is Oxygen in the highest reductive state. Bound in ores of oxidases metals.

Second highest occurrence is silicon, also in an oxidated state as Silicon oxides. Then comes Iron and Magnesium.

None of them will burn.

What you are talking about burning is not the planet, but the biosphere. And 99.9% of the biosphere contains far too much water to actually burn.

So no. The planet does not burn. Only tiniest parts of its biosphere sometimes catch fire. And the smoke actually blocks sunlight and acts as a natural measurement against climate change.

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