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[-] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

I don't get why anybody uses Ubuntu. Just use Debian. It's basically more stable and functional Ubuntu, but without snaps and you don't need an entire distro branch for different DEs.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Rant, but not at you.

Well I would use Debian, but the last two systems I tried to install it on hung at some point in the install process. I tried multiple times, multiple downloads, multiple versions (across multiple months!), and these are two separate machines from two different vendors.

Debian is fine on my server boxes, but fuck me it's dogshit in a consumer environment. One of those laptops has - and is an absolute necessity to have working - WWAN. I tried over a dozen distros, from 'easy and popular' to 'obscure and edge-case'. Ubuntu (actually Kubuntu, I like KDE) was literally the only distro to 1) boot, 2) install, and 3) have working WWAN (after fucking with the fcc-unlock shit and filling my carrier details). Nothing, literally nothing else could do this simple task.

Linux is great, they say. It's easy. It's simple to install and use. It puts you in control. These are ideas that the Linux community wants to believe, that I want to believe, but it's just not. Given the right circumstances, with the right hardware, and the right use-case, it's good. Stray anywhere off the beaten path and unless you're a veteran *nix sysadmin who values their time as $0, sometimes you're just fucked. I would know, I've been using various distros on and off for 20 years. It's still bad. I don't understand how, but here we are.

I don't like Ubuntu for a few reasons, but in my experience, the situation sucks the least when you use it. Sometimes - see above WWAN bullshit - it's the only thing that works.

And that's fucking bullshit, but it's a fact. And even interested users, who like to tinker, have a limit to what they will put up with before throwing in the towel and using what works.

[-] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

Because it's a popular distro. Because when you look for “how to X in linux”, there's a 90% chance the response will be about Ubuntu. Because your workplace said so. The list goes on.

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

Ubuntu is Debian with lipstick so that all still applies

[-] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Yeah but everything that I named would say Ubutnu. That's important. Until you know more, you'll already be using Ubuntu. That's why “anybody uses Ubuntu”.

[-] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago

Because you don't have to know what to do already if you start with Ubuntu. You have to know your way around the Linux world more if you use Debian

[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid 4 points 23 hours ago

I don't get why anyone uses windows 7,8,8.1,11, use Linux mint (windows 10 is replaced with a distro that uses kde plasma)

[-] tsugu@slrpnk.net 3 points 23 hours ago

I don't get why anyone uses, my body makes my own chemicals.

[-] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 6 points 21 hours ago

I don't get why anyone makes chemicals when they could be using my body.

[-] bastion@feddit.nl 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Blursed. Not that I disagree.

this post was submitted on 15 Nov 2024
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