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Rafael Grossi, head of the IAEA, called Germany's decision to fully phase out nuclear power "illogical," noting it is the only country to have done so.

Despite the completed phase-out in 2023, there is renewed debate in Germany about reviving nuclear energy due to its low greenhouse gas emissions.

Speaking at COP29, Grossi described reconsidering nuclear as a "rational" choice, especially given global interest in nuclear for emissions reduction.

Germany’s phase-out, driven by environmental concerns and past nuclear disasters, has been criticized for increasing reliance on Russian gas and missing carbon reduction opportunities.

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[-] Don_alForno@feddit.org 15 points 5 days ago

We didn't. We chose renewables over nuclear.

[-] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

There is a larger usage of fossil fuels than there otherwise would have been. A certain portion of new renewables replaced nuclear power instead of fossil fuelled plants.

So yes, Germany did prioritize removing safe, clean energy over removing dirty, dangerous energy.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 2 points 5 days ago

Safe like Three Missile Islands, Chernobyl and Fukushima.

Clean like Murmansk.

Fun fact, just last week in a supposedly safe storage site in Germany contaminated water was found. Nobody knows where it comes from and where it goes.

https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersachsen/braunschweig_harz_goettingen/Atommuelllager-Asse-Bergleute-stossen-auf-radioaktives-Salzwasser,asse1684.html

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

You tried, but it didn't work out as expected.

Also, on a side note, with nuclear you could export energy to other countries so that they don't need to rely on coal gas & oil so much.

[-] Don_alForno@feddit.org 12 points 5 days ago

We tried and it did and does work. Renewables are going up, fossils are going down.. We are burning less coal than ever. Any claims to the point of "replaced nuclear with coal" are disinformation and lies.

with nuclear you could export energy to other countries

We are exporting energy to other countries.

Nuclear is the most expensive form of power,. it's unsafe and inflexible. It doesn't make sense, it never did, and all those other kids jumping off the bridge don't change that.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

You could have exported more. It could have been a smother transition.

You are also trying to put words in my mouth, I did not say coal replaced nuclear.

Your fearmongering concerning nuclear makes me think that you are with the bridge jumping kids.

[-] Landslide7648@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 5 days ago

It actually worked better than expected. It’s simply a long process.

Snd until we have a good, permanent solution where to store nuclear waste that won’t be an issue for hundreds of future generations, it’s simply irresponsible to air for nuclear instead of renewables

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

That's cool!

Yes restarting nuclear today seems stupid especially if it's only for german consumption. Best case scenario is we plaster solar panels all over the world IMO but the production capacity isn't there before another ten years or so, but that beats new nuclear too.

Shutting down nuclear today is a more complicated matter IMO.

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