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submitted 1 year ago by markipol@beehaw.org to c/reddit@lemmy.ml

It can go one of a few ways.

  1. Apart from the few subs that remain offline, it'll basically be back to normal. Those that do remain offline indefinitely just get forcibly reopened or recreated by admins, especially huge subreddits like /r/videos. Smaller ones just get redicted to /r/topicnew or some other creative name.

  2. A lot of subreddits and more importantly moderators and users leave the site permanently. In order for this to happen however, there'd have to be a consensus alternative, which there isn't ATM. Otherwise, these communities are pretty much lost forever unless the mods put a message to go to X alternative service in the "subreddit is private" banner. Tbh, I don't think people are gonna stomach losing years of their lives in an instant so they'll just re create subreddits unless the mods provide an alternative.

No matter what though, they're not backing down on the effective removal of the API (still leaving the sneaky clause "you can pay us if you want but it'll be a king's ransom" for AI, even though they can just trawl the web manually lol). They'll probably announce some crappy customization features to hoodwink those who don't know what an API is and lie to them and say it's "API v2" or whatever.

I just honestly don't know how it's going to shake out and I'm scared im going to lose these communities. I don't give a single solitary fuck about Reddit the company anymore, and I never did really. I just hope all of the subreddits find a new home and don't just shrug their shoulders and say "welp, guess that's it guys".

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[-] CodingAndCoffee@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Squabbles seems to have not hit user critical mass. Tildes looks like it's doing well.

The Lemmy + Kbin fediverse seems to be taking off like a rocket and has the best overall chance IMO of becoming the home for the best parts of Reddit's community.

[-] CodingAndCoffee@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I want to add, that my wife has been a "scab" throughout all this and has been active on reddit, trying to show me memes and such.

The content she's been showing me has been stale, old stuff I saw back in 2020. Same recycled jokes, same memes. Reddit is in a mode of hard cope right now and I doubt it gets better if we don't return.

[-] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I want to add, that my wife has been a “scab” throughout all this and has been active on reddit, trying to show me memes and such.

Seems like grounds for a divorce.

I kid of course! My girlfriend is staying off Reddit, but she’s definitely missing it and hasn’t found a good substitute for her mix of subreddits yet. It’s especially rough since twitter’s gone downhill, and that was her other main scrollable content.

[-] bappity@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

NTA divorce immediately

[-] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

My wife was on Reddit for about 9 years when she got hooked on TikTok about a year ago. In her words, Reddit had become boring. She still checks the local community sub, but that is about it. Just worth pointing out that Reddit is facing pressure from two ends. A lot of the more casual users, and the popular content creators, are on TikTok and other video centric platforms. Reddit can't compete there, as much as they try. The dedicated users they did have, those interested in community and discussion, well Reddit just angered much of that group.

Prior to the blackout, I was angry with Reddit. Since the blackout I've taken a step back and realized how much garbage Reddit is filled with (ads, shitposts, promoted content, etc), and how much I want to find something better. Before the blackout I was planning to quit Reddit out of anger. Now I plan to quit because, as my wife said, Reddit is boring and I'm excited to explore what comes next.

[-] Marxine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

On the 3rd meme recycle people wil get bored already. It probably takes less than a month to happen, as long as the "community strike" continues.

[-] Master@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

For the first 12 hrs or so it was just a bunch of as reddit posts. Like 20 pages of it and a few political

[-] Alkalyon@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Squabbles

Isn't this developed by one person, isn't open source and forbids NSFW in general? That is never going to go well.

Tildes

No mobile app and no ActivityPub so it's a very specialised. Additionally I don't like the UI at all and I've read this in multiple threads here as well.

Lemmy + Kbin

Both are show the same content as they are federated so it's up to who prefers what really. I prefer Lemmy, but anything is fine.

[-] CodingAndCoffee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

re Squabbles: yes, hard agree.

re Tildes: yes, also hard agree. The invitation-only method of growing the community also is draconian and it's going to hit all the scaling problems a traditional site does.

These and others are why you're finding me with you here in the fediverse. I am with you mi beratna.

[-] Alkalyon@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

These and others are why you’re finding me with you here in the fediverse.

I've been here for a week and it already feels like home!

[-] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I think people underestimate how much people are unlikely to go back to an abusive relationship when they've found one that isn't. Reddit was a bad habit. I am actually going to be contributing to communities here once I figure it all out. The worst that could happen here so far is not getting any comments or votes which is fine by me. On reddit I could post a picture of my cat and someone could comment "insert random derogatory term" for no reason lol! So far so good here.

[-] asclepias@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It really depends on how you interacted with Reddit. A lot of my engagement was with smaller subreddits that sometimes had user bases that weren't necessarily the most tech savvy. I'm not sure how long it took some of the older people on r/quilting to find it, but I'm sure it will take them longer to find the Lemmy version.

[-] codRL@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Obligatory random derogatory term!

[-] brainschaden@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've been here for a week and it already feels like home!

Two days and same!

[-] agreyworld@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, seriously looked at Reddit alternatives when I saw a post from a big sub about going dark and how they were considering moving to tildes - but then found it was invite only. Seems silly for a million+ sub to migrate somewhere invite only

[-] bappity@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I reckon a lot of the platforms popping up with closed ecosystems will stagnate after a while. ActivityPub is brilliant and I hope more platforms adopt it!

[-] KillaBeez@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While I’m enjoying my time here and I’m honestly shocked with the amount of engagement so far, I just don’t see the “fedaverse” ever gaining any mainstream traction. It’s unintuitive and the barrier of entry is way too high. Even googling “Lemmy” doesn’t bring up useful results.

Something like squabbles has a better chance for mainstream appeal, but it would need a miracle as it’s only one duder

That being said, I’ll still be here!

[-] Monkeyhog@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Honestly, the lack of mainstream appeal is part of why I like it.

[-] rolaulten@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Just remember - as content is generated SEO is naturally going to improve, which will start to bring people into kbin/lemmy via Google.

As people spend time here marketing types will start to notice. Shortly thereafter we will see bots. To me, how we as a community handle those bots will be the real "does this experiment survive" test.

[-] teflocarbon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Absolutely. It's only a matter of time before someone sees the value in the information/data that is here and begin indexing the entire fediverse/site and working on SEO for it.

There are countless examples of indexers for GitHub for example, if you do any searching for questions related to coding. Pretty much every issue and repo has been indexed.

When reddit first popped up, posts from it came up in search results very rarely, now it's pretty much at the top of many searches, since it's a bastion of knowledge and community groups.

It's really only a matter of time if things do go well here.

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Me too. No large corporations guiding the communities and more open discussions can be had without fear of being banned.

[-] Grander@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

more open discussions can be had without fear of being banned.

Not sure about that. I saw a post today about lemmy.ml's admin, who's also one of the main lemmy developers, banning people who said something bad about China for "orientalism", then doubling down in it in the comments. Apparently mod logs for any instance can be accessed by any mod of any other instance. Otherwise I wouldn't have even known. Not sure how I feel about using a service developed by someone so toxic, who's also in charge of a big chunk of user accounts.

[-] nutomic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you dont like the moderation here you can use a different instances. Thats the main reason why Lemmy has federation. And our job is to build this software, not be perfect moderators who somehow make everyone happy.

[-] Grander@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

And if I want to participate in a community that's hosted on lemmy.ml I'm still under his jurisdiction. Besides, someone this banhappy being in charge of the development doesn't fill me with much confidence. Nothing stops them from implementing some hidden change that prevents sharing something they don't like.

[-] redditors_re_racist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Not sure about that. I saw a post today about lemmy.ml’s admin, who’s also one of the main lemmy developers, banning people who said something bad about China for “orientalism”, then doubling down in it in the comments.

yeah when you get used to reddit sinophobia (which is a product of their "policy" department that's aligned with the atlantic council and other quasi-government think tanks) anything else feels like oppression.

[-] onepinksheep@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Even googling “Lemmy” doesn’t bring up useful results.

It's not helped by the fact that it has the same name as a famous musician. Googling for Lemmy just brings him up — the Fediverse doesn't show up unless you scroll down a ways, if it even shows on the front page at all. Same with Tildes and Squabbles, both being already existing words. Branding is important for recognizability, and "Reddit" has the advantage of being a unique name.

[-] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think that's a good thing. I like what I'm seeing NOW as in the communities and interactions. I'm afraid to see what would happen if lemmy became a popular as reddit. But we will see and hope for the best.

[-] SeatBeeSate@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This isn't going to be a great migration. More of a great fragmentation.

[-] arbiter329@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Which is what should happen in my opinion.

Let small communities be small, let them govern themselves.

[-] twistedtxb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Fragmentation / Federation is honestly the right path.

[-] average650@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

As long as they aren't too small. There's a critical mass below which they're too empty.

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