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[-] CorruptBuddha@lemmy.ca 89 points 1 year ago

Dude... The VAST VAST VAST VAST VAST majority of indigenous aren't out there "protecting lands", and have no more connection to nature then you or I.

Nice casual racism though!

And that other 90% of humanity is working to industrialize to get where we are. It's a massive issue that as far as I'm aware we have no solution to.

[-] aranym@lemmy.name 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't get your 1st issue. That statement was based on statistics offered throughout the blurb. Are you claiming those statistics are wrong or inherently racist?

[-] CorruptBuddha@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago

I think it's fucking weird the comic attempted to differentiate indigenous from the rest of humanity so that's specifically what I'm taking issue with.

[-] OrnateLuna 9 points 1 year ago

While saying that indigenous people are inherently more connected to nature is at best iffy however I think the point the comic was trying to make is that on a general basis indigenous are (or were depending on how much of their culture and history has been destroyed) more knowledgeable of the lands that they have been inhabiting. More specifically compared to the colonisers that invaded their land.

If you already know that and was just pointing out discriminatory language then yeah not much to say

[-] CorruptBuddha@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

While saying that indigenous people are inherently more connected to nature is at best iffy however I think the point the comic was trying to make is that on a general basis indigenous are (or were depending on how much of their culture and history has been destroyed) more knowledgeable of the lands that they have been inhabiting. More specifically compared to the colonisers that invaded their land.

I see this as racist rhetoric, and I think the point of the comic was to be divisive. It's not that I don't understand the reasoning, it's that I'm looking at it from a step back.

Like if I made an anti-crime meme, and tossed in that blackmen are convicted, and charged with more crimes, the racism would be a lot more apparent because it's promoting negative bias towards blacks.

But this shit isn't any less racist, it's just more palatable.

[-] b3nsn0w@pricefield.org 2 points 1 year ago

you have some of a point here, and yeah, for various reasons, including marginalization, its resulting societal standings, and simply the lack of opportunity to industrially fuck up the landscape, indigenous people do in fact tend to end up as better stewards of the land. however, suggesting that this is because they're born special and aren't just following a different culture and incentive structure is a slippery slope that tends to end up in ethnonationalism on the part of whoever colonized a given piece of land first.

colonialism is absolutely a problem to this day, but it's not the only problem there is. while eco-fascism can go to hell, simply opposing it does not automatically clear your ideology of any problems.

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