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[-] yessikg 8 points 2 weeks ago

I mean send American troops to help out Russia in Ukraine, and send troops to help out China in Taiwan, and obviously send troops to help out Israel in Palestine

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

We've already sent troops to help Israel in Palestine, remember that aid pier that Israel used to do warcrimes, and now there's troops operating aircraft and a missile defense system to prevent anyone from interfering with Israel's genocide.

help out Russia in Ukraine

Just not sending weapons and money should be enough to get Ukraine back to the peace table and stop the bloodshed.

help out China in Taiwan

Ironically if we didn't try to use Taiwan for geopolitical goals, China would have no reason to invade, since a peaceful reintegration over time is far more advantageous than the destruction and insurgency that comes with a military option.

[-] yessikg 7 points 2 weeks ago

Why would Putin's American President ever help Ukraine, are you delusional?

China would have wanted Taiwan regardless, authoritarian regimes love to conquer and expand

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ukraine

You're not understanding, the arms and money we send Ukraine enables them to continue the war. Last year, Russia offered a peace deal, giving up a portion of the territory they occupied at the time. Ukraine declined and says they won't settle for less than all their territory, including Crimea. Without the weapons, they'd be forced to agree to a deal. Given that Russia probably knows they can't deal with the insurgency outside of Russian-speaking Ukraine, they'll probably agree to borders similar to what exists now.

China would have wanted Taiwan regardless

I mean the Republic of China is a part of China, it's eventual reunification is inevitable, but they obviously see that reunification by invasion would be very expensive, both in cost of the invasion, cost of the insurgency, and resulting sanctions from their third-biggest trading partner. The only case where they'd waste billions of dollars and hundreds of thousand of lives is if the US made that option better than the alternative.

The same calculation happened with Russia; after the maidan coup, the civil war on their border caused them to strategic infrastructure and terrorist attacks. They erroneously calculated the cost of having a hostile, NATO-backed state on the border would be greater than a quick invasion and replacing the US puppet with another Russian one.

You need to look closer to understand what pressures cause countries to do things, these places aren't cartoons who just decide to self-destruct their economies and send an entire generation into a meat grinder because aUTHoriTariaNism.

[-] Dr_Vindaloo@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

Man, Lemmings just love downvoting anything that hurts their fee fees.

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