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submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

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Russian official Dmitry Medvedev, a close ally of Vladimir Putin, suggested Donald Trump’s election victory may benefit Russia’s interests in Ukraine, citing Trump’s reluctance to fund “idiotic allies” and “voracious international organizations.”

Although Medvedev stopped short of celebrating, he hinted Trump’s aversion to foreign spending could weaken U.S. support for Ukraine.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky cautiously congratulated Trump, recalling their recent discussion on U.S.-Ukraine cooperation.

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov maintained a guarded tone, noting the U.S. remains an “unfriendly country” involved in the Ukraine conflict.

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[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 36 points 11 months ago

The only person you should blame is Harris and her party. She made the same mistake Clinton did by trying to be as conservative as possible, so nobody on the left voted for her.

[-] FatCrab@lemmy.one 75 points 11 months ago

I'm sick of this denial of voters culpability for their own votes. You are responsible for who you vote for and the outcomes. People voted for this and they are fundamentally responsible. Right now, folks just need to focus on making their local communities robust against the oncoming disasters.

[-] nogooduser@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

They are responsible for their own votes but if the politicians aren’t able to sell their ideas then the blame is also on them.

I blame Brexit on those that voted leave but I also blame the remain campaign for sleepwalking into the Brexit referendum and not doing enough to counter the leave campaign’s lies.

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 2 points 11 months ago

I think Remain spent too long trying to counter Leaver lies. Leave just sprayed them out, not caring. Remain should have been making the case for the EU. (Though industrial scale lying is a news regulation issue. It not balance to give both sides equal time when one side is bullshiting.)

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

I'm sick of this denial of politician's culpability for their policies. That said yes community organising is always a good idea, maybe the American left, doing that, will actually finally figure out why they're not appealing to people who they should be appealing to. A left that isn't popular with the lower classes is doing something wrong, and I'm not saying stop giving a fuck about racism etc, I'm saying start giving a fuck about class.

[-] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

There's almost zero representation for the left in the Democratic party, so it's not accurate to refer to the party as the left. Both of these parties are catering to the right, but one seems confused about why they keep losing to the party who isn't afraid to admit that they're just catering to the right.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

I mean sure but they're commonly referred to in US politics as left, and also consider themselves to be on the left.

Not my fault y'all's overton window is fucked.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 9 points 11 months ago

I'm sick of people blaming voters when they live in a State without democracy

[-] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Donald Trump won the popular vote in an election with record setting voter turnout. Lack of democracy from the electoral college or voter suppression didn't do this. People voting for Trump did.

[-] phar@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

Voter turnout was down many millions

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 6 points 11 months ago

Turnout seems to have been 158,481,688 (62.8%) in 2020 and although not yet tallied for 2024 the estimates are 138,437,782 counted so far. Can we just wait until the counts are done before making statements?

[-] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

This is the most damning rebuke of Democrats and their leaders. Trump's tactics worked.

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It doesn't matter if the voters are to blame. If they don't vote for you, you haven't reached them. Complaining about that won't make them vote for you.

This being said everyone who is a citizen of a society has some responsibility for that society. So of course the voters have responsibility.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 13 points 11 months ago

I guess the silver lining is that we won't spend the next few months worried about violent retaliation and a second insurrection. But we'll have to live through the bickering and multiple finger pointings among non_MAGA people on whose fault it was. Then January 20th will come and we'll be too busy worrying about our well being to continue the blaming.

It really does parallel Brexit in a way. People are so similar.

[-] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 months ago

I agree it was the Democrats and the Democrats alone that are responsible for the next 4 years.

Now come take a look at this bridge, I need to shift it quickly so I'll let you have a bargain price.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago

Would you rather she miss out on the bigger share of the center?

Face it, political views are a Bell Curve.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 11 months ago

Supporting a genocide and climate destruction isn't center . its right of center.

[-] formergijoe@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Nah I think she made the same mistake as Clinton by having a vagina.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You're right. Sad to see the down votes.

Kamala Harris was up 10 points in ratings above Trump after Biden dropped out. Every step of the way, Kamala dropped the ball and fumbled her lead with her eye on winning over conservatives.

This country is moving more and more right, and it's not the American people's fault. Democrats have stagnated ever since Obama ran on hope and change, but forgot all of that shit once in the White House.

Don't let people gaslight you here. Democrats are the ones to blame.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

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