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Ok everyone chill. Yeah, it sucks. But we kinda foresaw this ever since Biden decided to run again. Take a deep breath, think about it more later. The worst thing is to be angry instead of smart. Remember George Floyd. Remember specifically how everyone got angry and did dumb things about it, and today efforts at police reform are actually in a worse place than they were before he was murdered on video.
Think about ways to counter Trump that will be more effective and less just expressions of rage. I think the biggest problem is the media that really plays to Trump's reality TV-style politics. It's not enough to wine that the voters are too stupid, but what do we do about it?
Every federal judge and probably the supreme Court for the rest of our lives is going to be wholly owned by the dictatorship. Checks and balances are essentially broken at this point in the president can do whatever he wants with impunity. What about to hit a massive recession. What smart thing do you think were going to do about it?
I'm still hoping Biden uses that to finish Trump. That will lead surely you a civil war, but that's a price I'm willing to pay as somebody who doesn't live in the US.
Only half /s
They did make a solid attempt at making coups legal.
There's simply no way, the Democrats are going to look at the voting results and go this is what was legitimately voted for let it happen.
What do you think they'll do? In court they won't change anything, and rednecks are hard thinking they get to fire democrats.
I have no idea what you're saying here, like which they? Why is there court involved? They will eventually push out democrats and there may be blood.
My bad, I thought you said the democrats were not going to let it be.
fair :)
What we often call "the government" is actually many separate systems each with several moving parts. One man doesn't control it, no matter what sentences are written on what pieces of paper. Trump has all the corruption he needs, but he's not smart enough to know what he's doing.
So to act like there's no hope is just way too defeatist. Trump is gonna fail, and we can exploit those failures. But the last time we didn't react to his failures correctly, because of course he just won again after what most historians consider the worst presidency in American history. So the first smart thing we can do is ask where the anti Trump messaging and media failed. And actually try to answer that question.
Because we did such a good job of that in his last presidency and he wasn't a god king yet. /s
this is ultimately the problem though. The voter base is fucking retarded, and it's fuelled by a massive propaganda machine. There is literally nothing we can do here.
ROFL. George Floyd is one of the few good examples of popular mobilisation in the US and you're using it somehow as a point of how it's bad to protest????
What did the mobilization accomplish? I watched as police reform in my area, which seemed on the path to success pre-George Floyd, was killed off in a backlash to the protests and riots. Chauvin was convicted not on the protests, but because of the people who stood there and got the video. Beyond that, I can't see a single point of lasting success for BLM. By embracing inflammatory but attention grabbing messaging like ACAB and defund the police, they got attention alright, but that attention ended up painting the whole police reform movement as a bunch of rabid psychos.
See this article for a more well researched take on what I'm saying. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-views-on-black-lives-matter-have-changed-and-why-that-makes-police-reform-so-hard/