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[-] Millie@lemm.ee 59 points 1 year ago

What's it going to take to actually do something about these ultra-rich leeches literally destroying our planet and everything good on it to inflate a number in a bank somewhere? How do we actually build up the initiative to stop it?

All our other problems seem largely centered around our inability to appropriately respond to extreme greed. Not only in actually actively stopping it, but in even identifying it or being able to properly censure it in the first place. The moment you start talking about the rich being the cause of our problems, there's a section of society that starts tuning you out. I definitely feel like as things get worse people are starting to catch on, but even once we're there, where do we go?

If we actually get to the point of agreeing that excessive wealth is inherently misanthropic and should be a crime in and of itself, how do we make it a crime while so much power sits in the hands of those who'd be on the losing end of that decision?

I hope the WGA and SAG can spark a change in people's consciousness around labor. I'd honestly love to see a lot more interviews and independent podcasts coming from the picket lines. If there's anyone who can convince Americans to fight for the value of their labor, it's the people write and play the parts in the stories they love.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The moment you start talking about the rich being the cause of our problems, there’s a section of society that starts tuning you out.

That's because this is an insane claim.

If we actually get to the point of agreeing that excessive wealth is inherently misanthropic and should be a crime in and of itself

This is a massive "If." I could probably never be convinced that one person's wealth is inherently detrimental to someone else's well-being.

These are very extreme views. I support the Hollywood strike, my buddy is a union leader (as were both my parents), and I'm a reliably Democrat voter, and I couldn't disagree more with what you've said above.

[-] 33KK 3 points 1 year ago

The thing is, you can't get that rich by playing fair, it's only possible at the expense of others. And I can assure you, most rich people are activelty making our lives worse.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Again that's a huge claim with nothing to back it up.

[-] 33KK 1 points 1 year ago

Nothing? 💀 Show me a single billionaire that got rich by playing fair

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] 33KK 1 points 1 year ago

Anticonsumer, anticompetitive practices, corruption and lobbying in their own interest, propaganda, tax evasion...

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I lobbied in my own interest not 15 minutes ago, as part of Citizens Climate Lobby. Just got off a zoom meeting with my rep. Lobbying is not inherently bad.

Can you prove tax evasion? That's a serious crime.

Also, shameless plug - consider joining your local chapter of CCL! Took me 5 minutes to sign up and all meetings have been via zoom.

https://citizensclimatelobby.org/

[-] 33KK 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, I didn't mean that lobbying in general is bad, I mean lobbying against the interest of the public. It's commonly done by basically any big corporation + propaganda to gaslight people into believing that its in their benefit ( an example i have on hand: https://web.archive.org/web/20201102203132/https://safeandsecuredata.org/get-the-facts/ )

By tax evasion I mean in general doing anything to not have to pay tax, lobbying against rich people tax, keeping your assets as loans, etc.

I'll look into the shameless plug

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