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[-] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The moment you start talking about the rich being the cause of our problems, there’s a section of society that starts tuning you out.

That's because this is an insane claim.

If we actually get to the point of agreeing that excessive wealth is inherently misanthropic and should be a crime in and of itself

This is a massive "If." I could probably never be convinced that one person's wealth is inherently detrimental to someone else's well-being.

These are very extreme views. I support the Hollywood strike, my buddy is a union leader (as were both my parents), and I'm a reliably Democrat voter, and I couldn't disagree more with what you've said above.

[-] 33KK 3 points 1 year ago

The thing is, you can't get that rich by playing fair, it's only possible at the expense of others. And I can assure you, most rich people are activelty making our lives worse.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Again that's a huge claim with nothing to back it up.

[-] 33KK 1 points 1 year ago

Nothing? 💀 Show me a single billionaire that got rich by playing fair

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] 33KK 1 points 1 year ago

Anticonsumer, anticompetitive practices, corruption and lobbying in their own interest, propaganda, tax evasion...

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I lobbied in my own interest not 15 minutes ago, as part of Citizens Climate Lobby. Just got off a zoom meeting with my rep. Lobbying is not inherently bad.

Can you prove tax evasion? That's a serious crime.

Also, shameless plug - consider joining your local chapter of CCL! Took me 5 minutes to sign up and all meetings have been via zoom.

https://citizensclimatelobby.org/

[-] 33KK 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, I didn't mean that lobbying in general is bad, I mean lobbying against the interest of the public. It's commonly done by basically any big corporation + propaganda to gaslight people into believing that its in their benefit ( an example i have on hand: https://web.archive.org/web/20201102203132/https://safeandsecuredata.org/get-the-facts/ )

By tax evasion I mean in general doing anything to not have to pay tax, lobbying against rich people tax, keeping your assets as loans, etc.

I'll look into the shameless plug

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

That's because this is an insane claim.

Consider that they have the power to massively improve everyone's lives but are choosing not to.

Perhaps they didn't personally cause and create some of those problems, but they are still the only ones with the power to make the necessary changes, so the continuation of those problems is indeed their doing.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In what way does the logistics revolution spurred by Amazon's growth not massively benefit every person who buys anything in the US? You're seriously suggesting with a straight face, that Microsoft hasn't saved literally hundreds of millions of lives just in database tech alone?

You're talking out of your ass here man. Hell, you're putting billionaires on par with running a government which is simply absurd.

It's not on rich people to save the fucking world, though Bill Gates has personally done more for the world than most governments ever have. It's on voters to pass policies that provide them better lives. That's the point of democracy

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Are you serious lmao

You think billionaires have no influence on government? Please

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think you don't understand how government functions in any real way at all

this post was submitted on 15 Jul 2023
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