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Beehaw admin is such a fucking liar wtf
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this post was submitted on 13 Jun 2023
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Wait, chill. Won't comments like this give them an example of "hate-speech" they can use against this instance? If they lie, it's their problem. Hopefully their users realize it, but if not, we don't need to feed into their narrative and prove their point. This is my opinion, anyway.
Edit: I have already been convinced I was wrong. I'll still leave this comment up, despite the downvotes, so that replies still make sense.
From where I sit, they'll take anything that isn't full-throated subordination as hate speech; so why play their game? I literally do not give the first fuck about what they think. You do raise a fair point; but only in the context of if you're willing to play the game by their conditions. Which I'm not.
I stand strongly with you, comrade.
But. Public words matter. And I agree with the other comrade that commented this. We should be able to control our tone to the forum we're in. There's place for easy words, there's place for kindness, there's place for anger.
Front pages in here should be overwhelmingly thoughtful, in my opinion. And then there's a place for trash talk somewhere less front facing, in here.
Plain angered reasoning won't convince many people to hear us.
Edit: actually, I'm wrong this is freechat, fuck them.
In reddit the two red flags were usually "no hate speech" and "no politics". As in "if we disagree with you politically we'll suppress you, and if you try to make a fuss about it, we'll consider it hate speech and ban you".
The other combo was "this is a safe space" and "no politics" as in "this is a safe space to be chauvinistic and racist, but daring to speak out against it is considered politics and we'll ban you".
This fucking clown has hit the trifecta...
Edit: it's very telling how that mod and many of the commenters are considering forking just because lemmy was created, is developed and maintained by "tankies". Safe space my ass...
They fear being treated the same as they treated us on reddit, but they also want to continue treating us like that.
I don't mean "playing the game by their conditions". More like "kill them with kindness". Their instance still has members whose opinions can be swayed, and if they learn this instance is banned, visit, and encounter hateful posts, justified as they may be, they may not stay very long. Though I do understand your frustration.
This is Lemmygrad. We're allowed to be passionate.
We're human, not neolib husks of "kind behavior".
Sorry, but here in America we don't tolerate any kind of hate. That includes hate towards our passion to to keep as many people malnourished as possible. Thank you for your understanding :)
You're right, we are human. And as another commenter said, this is freechat. We should be able to express ourselves and to have a safe space to do that. I'm new here, so still learning. I'm really liking how passionate people are. :)
It's one of my favorite parts about Lemmygrad!!
How is that hate speech? Saying you hate an admin team is not hate speech
I just meant it was an aggressive tone, which might put off new members. Also, I might have equated "hate speech" with speech in which you show hate for something (ex, an admin team). Which is clearly wrong looking back, but I won't edit it now.
Do as you will, I just suggest not conflating the two in the future. I think if anything communicating a passionate disdain for people like Beehaw's lying admins (along with Democrats, Republicans, Blairites, etc) would be a positive for new user interest.
Ye, I'll try. It was an honest mistake.
I'd have to read more about the history between Beehaw's admin and this Lemmy instance. I won't blindly passionately disdain them, but clearly there is some history here which I'm not aware of, so if anything, I'll think twice before "both-siding" this.
We're on the same page here. ;)
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