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When Meta launched their new Twitter competitor Threads on July 5, they said that it would be compatible with the ActivityPub protocol, Mastodon, and all the other decentralized social networks in the fediverse "soon".

But on July 14, @alexeheath of the Verge reported that Meta's saying ActivityPub integration's "a long way out". Hey wait a second. Make up your mind already!

From the perspective of the "free fediverse" that's not welcoming Meta, the new positioning that ActivityPub integration is "a long way out" is encouraging. OK, it's not as good as "when hell freezes over," but it's a heckuva lot better than "soon." In fact, I'd go so far as to say "a long way out" is a clear victory for the free fediverse's cause.

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[-] featured@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lmao you think there were governments when early humans were wandering around the plains of Africa in tiny little tribes?

E: Downvote all you want but by the definitions being proposed here then all species have governments because they snatch food from one another, which is an immensely asinine description of 'government' since it describes and means effectively NOTHING

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Tribalism is a form of government hate to break it to you...

[-] Kalkaline@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago

As long as there is a limited supply of resources there will be some form of economic distribution and a government to settle disputes about that distribution.

[-] nekat_emanresu@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

If you argue that any attempt to resolve an economic dispute(that apple is mine!) is through government, then yes, they will exist as long as we do.

[-] outdated_belated@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, the fatalism is sad.

People lack both the knowledge to realize that different forms of society already existed (and do, currently), and imagination to realize that it’s possible to move towards a different and better form.

[-] gonzo0815@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

So you want to reduce humanity by 99%? Because hunter gatherer lifestyle isn't sustainable with more than 100 million people.

Oh and you also want to go back to a life expectancy of 40 years, barely any useful medicine, exorbitant child mortality, countless women dying at birth and the constant fear that your surroundings will kill you.

Sounds great!

[-] featured@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Huh???? I never advocated for going back to a pre-agriculture society society at all, i was pushing back against the idea that governments ‘have always existed’ because of course they haven’t, that’s patently absurd since they are social constructs

[-] gonzo0815@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

You're right, I didn't look at the usernames and thought you were op, arguing that we don't need governments and can go back to tribes. Sorry :/

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