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[-] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

LLM's are not the only type of AI out there. ChatGPT appeared seemingly out of nowhere. Whose to say the next AI system wont do that as well?

[-] vritrahan@lemmy.zip 10 points 9 months ago

Anything can happen. We can discover time travel tomorrow. The economy cannot run on wishful thinking.

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago

It can! For a while. Isn't that the nature of speculation and speculative bubbles? Sure, they may pop some day, because we don't know for sure what's a bubble and what is a promising market disruption. But a bunch of people make a bunch of money until then, and that's all that matters.

[-] vritrahan@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 months ago

The uncertainty of it is exactly why it shouldn't suck up as much capital and resources as it is doing.

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago

Shouldn't, definitely. But for a while, it will keep running, because that's how a lot of speculative investment works.

[-] vritrahan@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago

I agree, and the problem is finance capitalism itself. But then it becomes an ideological argument.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 1 points 9 months ago

The argument could be made economically rather than ideologically.

Capitalism has a failure mode where too much capital gets concentrated into too few hands, depressing the flow of money moving through the economy.

But Capitalists start crying "Socialism!" as soon as you start talking about anti-trust.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 5 points 9 months ago

Tulips all the way down..

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

ChatGPT did not appear out of nowhere.

ChatGPT is an LLM that is a generative pre-trained model using a nueral network.

Aka: it's a chat bot that creates it's responses based on an insane amount of text data. LLMs trace back to the 90s, and I learned about them in college in the late 2000s-2010s. Natural Language Processing was a big contributor, and Google introduced some powerful nueral network tech in 2014-2017.

The reason they "appeared out of nowhere" to the common man is merely marketing.

[-] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

You're misquoting me. I haven't claimed LLMs appeared out of nowhere.

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

You said ChatGPT appeared out of nowhere. ChatGPT is basically Eliza with an LLM.

[-] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Those are not my words and you know it. You're misquoting me.

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

LLM’s are not the only type of AI out there. ChatGPT appeared seemingly out of nowhere. Whose to say the next AI system wont do that as well?

I'm not sure what I'm misquoting. A large language model is not AI, a large language model is a non-human readable function used by a generative AI algorithm.

Simply put, ChatGPT did not appear out of nowhere.

[-] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

ChatGPT did not appear out of nowhere

I agree.

The key word there is seemingly. The technology itself had existed for a long time, but it wasn’t until the massive leap OpenAI made with it that it actually became popular. Before ChatGPT, 99% of people had never heard of LLMs, and now everyone has. That’s what I mean when I say it appeared seemingly out of nowhere - it took the masses by surprise. There’s no reason to assume another company working on a different approach to AI won’t make a similar massive breakthrough, giving us AI far more powerful than LLMs and taking everyone by surprise, despite the base technology having existed for a long time.

A large language model is not AI

It is AI though - a subset of generative AI to be specific, but it still falls under the AI category.

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