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[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago

The ones who we need to stop pleasing first is corps and company's.

They are the pme who make up like 70 % of emissions

[-] KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 years ago

Corps are made up of people though. And for some reason people seem to think that it's not their fault if it's part of their job. We need to convince them otherwise.

[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

and you dont do that by being unpleasant to your fellow people

[-] GreeNRG@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Bringing up stats instead of ignoring them isn't unpleasant.

Companies spend billions over years to convince us to think nothing of it, we need to fight back with grassroots.

[-] KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago

I didn't suggest being unpleasant to anyone.

[-] Tamo240@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

They're not doing that independently of the products and services they provide. Over consumption is a big issue and narratives like this shirk personally responsibility and promote the bystander effect.

[-] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 years ago

This isn't something that gets solved by just hoping people's individual lifestyle choices fix it. Production has to be scaled back, and market economics is clearly not capable of that sort of conscious decision making.

[-] Tamo240@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

'The Market' is not capable of spontaneously deciding to make less profit for sure. What is capable of, and in fact the only thing it does is responding to demand. If the demand for highly polluting products like meat and fish fall, it will pivot to products that continue to see high demand.

This is why individual action does matter. You can't just offload all responsibility for making better choices onto the companies and act as though you are forced to consume what they produce, andnothing will change unless they change.

To be clear I'm not advocating for everyone to be vegan or anything like that. One plant based meal a week could have huge impact on the climate

[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

On the contrary, we need to hold these corps accountable

So talking with your fellow people should primarily be about how to do that and not you thinking about how to not be pleasent about it

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

This is such a stupid statistic. Do you think those companies were burning fossil fuels purely for fun? Or perhaps they’re making things that people subsequently buy?

[-] eskimofry@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

This is a bullshit argument. People will make do with what they have. Do you think People suddenly woke up one day and demanded soft drinks to be created?

[-] eskimofry@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

Not everything in life is about making money you know? Everybody will have a better time if we dialed the greed down from 11.

[-] itsnotits@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

and companies*.

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