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[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago

This could be a language barrier thing, but it sounds like you're talking about a production issue, not a censorship issue.

[-] mortakhal@feddit.nl 1 points 3 weeks ago

okay, despite the cultural and resource diversity, what prevented then in the Soviet Union from making normal food en masse for people like sushi or even shawarma? Why was there only sausage and chebureks, buns, vodka, beer everywhere? Because there is an order to do so and there is a chain of manufacturers, there was no initiative from below, although the country was supposed to be for the people. Due to the size of the state apparatus for serving the population, any initiative was lost. In the end, everything was done only when the old grandfather wanted to show off in front of the West :) there is nothing made of high quality in the Soviet Union, except for missiles that were sold to other countries to shoot at people :) and everything that served the military industry.

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

I'm going to avoid touching the rest of that and say that a centralized production not making sushi or shawarma is not the same as censoring those things. You can still make them at home, it's not like fish, rice, and seaweed were beyond the reach of the existing production. Again, it sounds like a production issue.

[-] mortakhal@feddit.nl 2 points 3 weeks ago

and the main reason for the deficit was preparation for the war, not the desire to make people's lives in the country better. Nothing prevented the Soviet Union with the Communists at its head from being an ally before the war with the Germans, attacking Poland together and attacking Finland, suppressing protests in Czechoslovakia and Hungary

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

I'm really struggling to follow some of this. Are you saying the Soviets didn't need to fight Germany and didn't need to take as much time as they could manage to prepare to do so?

[-] mortakhal@feddit.nl 2 points 3 weeks ago

The problem is that they were allies of Germany until Germany attacked them :) and they also wanted to conquer all of Europe, not just preparing to defend their own territory

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

I chose to avoid most of the bait so far, even with those cloying :)s that you like adding so much, but this one is too disgusting. It's historical revisionism pure and simple that they were ever "allies" with Germany. They had a treaty to try and stall German invasion, but they never imagined things would go otherwise than one party defeating the other (though they did underestimate how soon the Germans would attack).

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