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[-] capital@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're shitting me, right?

In this thread where I describe my fucked up back, rating from the VA, my inability to win fistfights, my worry about my wife and daughter defending themselves from men. And you can't figure out what I mean by "strong" and "weak". Bullshit. But fuck it, let's do this.

You haven’t defined “the strong” or “the weak”

Both of these are used to describe ones physical prowess in relation to the other. They're relative. Someone "stronger" than me can overpower me through physical means and I would be helpless to defend against it, given no other tools.

or what you mean by “self-defense.”

I'll just go with the dictionary on this one:

the act of defending oneself, one's property, or a close relative

Now feel free to explain what you mean by "take advantage of" in the context of my using a gun to defend myself.

Edit: I just fucking knew I would go as far as to define these well-known words to get nothing in return. You can tell it was going that way this whole exchange.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Sorry, not good enough definitions.

A starving man on death's door manages to break into your home to steal a loaf of bread. You have a gun and see him do it.

Who is the strong one and who is the weak one there? Who is acting in self-defense there?

And I am happy to explain that if you shot and killed the man in that situation, you would be taking advantage of their weakness.

[-] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wait, I'm no pro gun person, but like if some fucking random breaks into my house even to steal bread, you can bet your ass I'm threatening them back out with a knife or some shit. How would anyone know that they're there as a poor person stealing bread and not to mess with your family? I doubt you or anyone else would act differently under that pressure short of being really well trained in conflict diffusion. This whole thing seems super disengenous.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I thought this was about shooting people?

[-] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Let me make it clear then, if a gun was around I would threaten them out / shoot them with the gun if they wouldnt leave. Pick your tool and I would at least try to use it. The part of Your strength argument that I don't think makes sense and isn't real is that if a poor person breaks into your house that you would allow them to steal from you from a high moral stand point. Further, you would somehow manage some sort of completely calm demeanour because you somehow know that they are someone in need there to steal and not there to hurt you or your family.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Okay, but you're making a completely different argument than the person I am discussing is making. Especially since you mentioned a knife before. You can chase someone like that out of your home without a gun.

Really, most home invaders can be driven out with a baseball bat. The ones that can't... I guess be prepared to murder them.

Also, with a bat, you're less likely to kill a family member you think is a criminal you're defending yourself from.

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