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Things you should never ask
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Very cute but there are reports of people analyzing the pagers and not finding any evidence of explosives. This is a developing story so maybe this will come to not but your incredulity doesn't change these facts in the ground.
And if you were even a little familiar with lithium battery fires you'd know such reports don't match up with the reports of exploding pagers killing people. So which is it?
We've had numerous cases of phones catching on fire in people's pockets and resulting in horrible burns throughout the years, but how many of these have killed people? A lithium battery is an incendiary device under the right circumstances, not an explosive one. And you need a bigger battery than one in a pager to cause enough damage in a short enough timeframe to kill a person before they can save themselves.
Not to mention that it's not a simple matter to make a lithium battery catch on fire remotely. What are they gonna do, try to draw more current than the battery can provide? That's not going to make a battery catch on fire.
Without compromised hardware even igniting a battery is pretty implausible (unless the phone was on charge, and obviously these weren't) as you'd need to basically short it out and this would be hard even with full bare metal access.
Pagers are famously hard to hack as well since all they do is display strings. And they aren't on the public net, they don't even have IP addresses as they communicate hub and spoke with a big slow RF transceiver.
Much more likely triggered by a message or long time fuse.
Reports of batteries in the past exploding were unintentional. So if one were purposely causing the batteries to explode then it's logical that you could make it a lot more potent.
The idea that it was a hack is more prevalent outside the west. No doubt because western intelligence is trying to stop the story of any electronic made by them being a potential bomb under their control.
Link the reports or GTFO
depending on particular noises made by their favourite rumor mill, they might have heard that pagers contained 0, 1, 3, less than 20, or 30 to 60g of explosives. these might have been in battery or in extra (fake) element. nobody knows shit as of now
taiwanese manufacturer denies involvement and directs to a hungarian subsidiary, but that hungarian subsidiary is only nameplate on a residential address. their pagers contain different chips and are overall different model compared to what taiwanese make and sell. it might be very well that israelis didn't have to intercept shipping of pagers, because they made them and routed through a few cutouts, one in hungary, another in bulgaria. israelis have a policy of not telling anything and i haven't seen anywhere internals of the alleged pagers. it will take some time until anything will be known with any certainty