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(Reuters) - Ukrainian troops are suffering high losses because Western arms are arriving too slowly to equip the armed forces properly, President Volodymyr Zelenskiy told CNN in an interview aired on Sunday.

Russia has been gaining ground in parts of eastern Ukraine including around Pokrovsk. Capture of the transport hub could enable Moscow to open new lines of attack.

Zelenskiy said the situation in the east was "very tough", adding that half of Ukraine's brigades there were not equipped.

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[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

That doesn't make any logical sense. You say it's a financial strain to send equipment and propose sending NATO in to help. Where is NATO getting their equipment from?

ITS THE SAME EQUIPMENT.

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You are missing a step. Right now we are sending them equipment, and they are barely holding their own. If NATO goes in, then it’s a TON more equipment, plus a TON more troops. If Russia is barely holding their own against Ukraine, do you think they can hold back all of NATO?

That war would be over a lot quicker

Also, there is equipment that can’t be sent Ukraine, for example of the United States F 22, we literally can’t give that to the Ukraine. The law prevents it. But if NATO went in, that means the US would go in and the US could fly the F-22 into combat there.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

then it’s a TON more equipment,

Then why isn't it sent to Ukraine?

plus a TON more troops.

Ukraine has said they need supplies, not troops.

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Some of it,such as the f-22, the US can't legally sell or give to them by law. It's literally against the law.

Also there is the cost of the rest of it. If the Ukraine government is paying for it then yes sell it, but some of it is not being paid for. Some of it is being GIVEN. That costs money from the US tax players. At some point that well runs dry. You can't just keep giving and giving. It doesn't work. So since this has gone on long enough maybe it's time to end it.

As for Ukraine saying no troops. Let's recap. If the Ukraine was paying for ALL of it then I'd say just keep selling equipment to them. Sooner or later one side or the other breaks. But some of it is not being paid for. The dollar amount is getting large of what congress has authorized so far. How long before our budget says wtf?! Sooner or later either we stop giving to save our economy or we send troops before we get to that point to end it faster.

Yes I know Ukraine is saying no troops but there is the other half that equation. Ukraine is going to have to make a tough call at some point, unless they figure out how to beat Russia before that point.

Money is a finite item, it is not infinite

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