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We live in an age when the most unobjectionable and necessary ideas for progress can give rise to paranoia and fear. If the most innocuous, unoriginal possible idea can fuel paranoia, how can we hope to have a sensible discussion about the future of our places?

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[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

These people all grew up in a car centric world, where dad commuted in to the city from the suburbs and mom drove them to the school everyday. That, to them is the comfortable, natural order of things. Their psychology begs them to preserve that order at all costs.

How are 15-minute cities a threat to them and their way of life? As far as I know, there's nothing about a 15-minute city that precludes anyone from driving a car in it.

All change to them, can be reduced to something that is being taken away from them. Something that disrespects their forefathers.

What about the changes they themselves are causing? Women in their forefathers' time had access to legal abortion, and now they have taken that away. That's a change. A rather drastic and menacing change.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

How are 15-minute cities a threat to them and their way of life?

More compact cities tend to have more people on the streets (stranger danger!), less space for the cars in which they feel safe, and often force them to park and leave (!) their car minutes (!!) away from their destination. Let's not even speak of public transportation, where dozens (!!!) of strangers get crammed into the same box.

Women in their forefathers' time had access to legal abortion

Ah, but what about their fore-forefathers' time? Anyway, that's not menacing... for those who can't get pregnant (men, and celibate, post-menopausal, etc. women).

[-] whelmer@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

They believe that the long-term intent is to force people to remain within their designated "15 minute" zones.

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago
[-] whelmer@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

To be evil, I guess.

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