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[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

Socialists have been the go-to vote of the proletariat in Europe since the early 1900s, and most of these parties were in power at some point or another since 2000.

However these parties have fallen off a cliff in popularity, and the reason why will depend heavily on who you ask but it boils down to "workers don't feel represented by socialists".

  • The socio-economic landscape moved on since 1917, but the left-end of socialists did not. Orthodox Marxism says tertiary sector workers are basically part of the bourgeoisie (I've had Extremely Online Marxists explain that one to me with a straight face, so as an IT worker I'm afraid to say I am not allowed to partake in any True Socialism because I do not sell my Labor).
  • Conversely the "center-left" socialists are hardcore neoliberals (who just happen to think that some social programs serve the neoliberal agenda) and their policies have therefore failed to meaningfully curb the degradation of public services and standards of living.
  • The Left™ got stuck in the trap of being pigeonholed as "pro-immigration" during what most people felt like was immigration crisis. Doesn't matter how you feel about it, this culture war bullshit has profoundly hurt their polling scores and benefited bigots.
  • Parties with an internally democratic governance have been dreadfully slow to react to changes in the political landscape in the past 25 years. Retirees are voting in the primaries whereas extremist parties are led by autocrats who fully understand how to capitalize on online media attention (hence the better polling numbers of the far-right with thr youth).

Fighting fascists with "but socialists good for proletariat" is worse-than-useless. Voters know what socialists stand for, and that's kind of the problem because they feel it hasn't helped. People don't have hope in traditional European socialist policies, and only vote red out of tradition or as a barrage vote against the far-right.

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