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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Okay, but 80% is not 100%.

So why pretend that 100% of Israelis have the same opinion? It's just bigotry. Just because Israel is committing a genocide and even if the majority of Israelis agree with that genocide, it's simple bigotry to suggest that every Israeli agrees with the genocide.

And if you're going to just piss away internal opposition as if it doesn't exist, you're pissing away hope.

[-] oakey66@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

I never said every. You're burying your head in the sand about what Israel has turned into. And don't lecture me on Israel like you have any fucking skin in the game. My grandfather was Israeli. I'm a Jewish refugee in the US. It's not bigotry to factually point out how absolutely atrocious the views of the majority of Israelis are. And how rooted in bigotry it is.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

That's how this whole conversation thread started. With the implication that there are no Israelis who are against genocide.

That is the issue.

That people internally protesting this are just being treated like they don't exist.

If that wasn't what you were talking about, I'm sorry, but that is what was being discussed.

[-] oakey66@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I think you have an issue with parsing words on a screen. Nowhere in what I wrote did I say every. I said Israel as a whole would look for every opportunity to level Gaza and displace the West Bank. Israelis are not in the streets protesting the IDF ripping up roads of Palestinian cities in the West Bank. They're not protesting because there are 40k dead Palestinians (possibly as high as 186k which around 8% of the population). They're protesting dead hostages.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yes, again, that's how this conversation thread started. You came in later. The subject under discussion was the idea that Israeli approval of genocide was unanimous.

[-] oakey66@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Dude. I have a top level comment. I wasn't responding to anyone. I responded to the article into which you read another conversation in the post. That's on you not me.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Sorry, you're right. You did write the top level comment. Which said this:

Israel rioted for the right of soldiers to rape prisoners.

That sure makes it sound like it was unanimous to me. That's exactly why I said it was unfair to begin with.

[-] oakey66@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Ok. My phone autocorrected "Israel" instead of a misspelling of "Israelis". But again. Never implied all or every. Nor did I write every Israeli rioted.

[-] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 7 points 2 months ago

That's not the implication tho. The implication is that, similar to nazi Germany, a significant portion of their population has wanton care about the carrying-out of genocide. It doesn't really matter that "not every" German was a nazi when the society still carried out the genocide of almost 12 million people, more than half of which were jews.

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