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[-] InquisitiveApathy@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

It released in a saturated market with better and more mature options already available, for free. They also barely marketed the game at all. I don't know how any of this can be a surprise.

[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well if you can give me any recommendations besides games like Overwatch, Valorant, Apex Legends, and Paladins I'd be dying to know. Because I'm honestly sick of all of them. I'm genuinely curious because I'm exhausted with all the current hero shooters I've played. Kinda the reason I was bummed when this game was pretty mid and flopped. Everyone always talks about the market being saturated when everyone that plays these hero shooters is pissed at the developers of said shooters almost on a daily basis. I don't think Concord was the next big thing. I'm just so sick of all the games currently out to the point I'm willing to try anything.

Deadlock seems pretty sick though. That's honestly the one I'm waiting for.

[-] InquisitiveApathy@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

You kind of just explained exactly why the game failed without realizing it. You're exhausted and bored with the genre as a whole and a new flavor of the same games that already exist isn't innovative enough to entice new players. We've seen a long line of hero shooters that were dead on arrival because they have nothing new to offer and Concord is no different.

[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

It's less about exhaustion with the genre and more about being exhausted with the f2p model. Especially with games like Overwatch where this is a new thing. The core gameplay mechanics of Overwatch are fine, minus the constant changes to larger mechanics like team composition and role changes. But as a FPS game there is nothing objectively wrong with the game from a gameplay standpoint. It's fluid, easy to learn, and responsive. Same with games like Apex. There's nothing objectively wrong with the gameplay. But they sacrifice server stability and game breaking issues that have been present since the game was released in favor of adding more ways to spend money. If anything these issues have gotten worse while the shop looks more complicated and predatory than Fortnite's in its hay day.

I know Concord isn't the next big thing, but I think it's worth a try. $40 is not even that much when you consider how much f2p games are charging for their skins. And I'd much rather pay $40 for a game and have minimal microtransactions than play a game for free but have to spend even more money than the game is worth just to customize the huge roster of characters these games have. And the argument "it's just cosmetics" is such a lazy excuse when customizing your character is one of the only ways to express yourself in a game. It's the reason why there are so many jokes about people saying the first 10 hours of a new game they bought is spent customizing their character.

Sorry, I went on a bit of a rant and didn't mean to. Got a little carried away. I'm not trying to say your point is wrong, just that that's not the reason I'm exhausted with hero shooters.

[-] InquisitiveApathy@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I understand being frustrated with f2p shenanigans and microtransactions, but I think that frustration is blinding you to some of the bigger picture issues at play. I agree that microtransactions are a problem, but honestly fps games are one of the few genres where I would say a f2p and live-service model actually makes the most sense.

Before the prevalence of battle passes most games followed the CoD model where a new game would be released every year or two and you would be forced to buy it because the player population of the older game would die off drastically. With live-service it allows the dev to still update games and gives players a reason to keep coming back every season to keep playing a game. An fps game is only as healthy as how large and diverse in terms of skill range its player population has.

I'm also excited for Deadlock though. It will hopefully keep doing everything right that Battleborne failed at and looks really fun.

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