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[-] considine@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty is straight up State department propaganda.

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 24 points 3 months ago

lemmy.ml is straight up lemmygrad / hexbear Tankie propaganda.

[-] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

While this is somewhat true (state funded, but with some level of independence), your statement doesn't jive with reality.

I follow RFE/RL in both English and several other languages. Their reporting is far better than many multi-billion dollar private news companies in the West.

And it's not a minor difference either, the western news companies are not even close.

[-] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

What an absurd response. This is akin to saying RT isn’t Russian state propaganda.

[-] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

RT and RFE/RF are state media, but there is a difference. The former does not enjoy freedom and the latter does because of its firewall that prevents political interference.

Although the Trump administration tried to remove firewalls and introduce its inference that could have been harmful during that period.

[-] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

I think you mean it’s designed to prevent partisan interference. RFE/RL’s purpose is to support US foreign policy which makes it inherently political. It is undeniably a propaganda outlet and therefore comparable in function to RT. You may trust American propaganda over Russian propaganda but that doesn’t mean the former is not propaganda.

[-] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Just a question, what do you know about RFE/RL?

Do you follow any of their news program series?

Do you speak any other languageslioe Ukrainian, Belarusian or Georgian?

[-] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

I do check out RFE/RL and its sister outlets from time to time. It’s pretty obvious that their agenda aligns 1 for 1 with American foreign policy objectives. To be fair though, the US wouldn’t fund RFE/RL if it didn’t effectively dupe people into believing it was an unbiased source.

[-] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Is there anything else that you noticed beyond "aligns with US foreign policy objectives".

Did you only read it in English? What other language services from them did you read.

[-] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

How’s that relevant? Do you have counter evidence for any of the points I made or are you just desperately trying to prove you’re not a dupe?

[-] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I agree with you, I am very desperately trying to prove something to someone who can't even read the work of RFE/RL!

Total dupe!

[-] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

“I trust the United States government and so should you!” -Alphane Moon

[-] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

There times when it is reasonable to trust the US government.

You should never trust anything that comes out of russia; even their "opposition" (let alone their government thugs).

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm sure everything Russia China and NK do WRONG is just *propaganda, too.

Isn't that right .ml user?

[-] considine@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Propaganda is usually truthful or exaggerated truth. It's the framing that is important. Some facts are focused on. Some facts are omitted.

I acknowledge that Russia, China and the DPRK have made mistakes and even done things that are deeply questionable. But I'm interested in comparing their mistakes or misguided actions to those of the most powerful military empire on earth. The one involved in hundreds of military actions and dozens of coups since its inception. The one with the largest per capita prison population on earth. The one which controls many of the world's financial levers.

There is a difference in the scale of their mistakes or bad actions. Propaganda distorts that difference of scale. It focuses on the crimes of the "enemies" / "axis of evil" / "rogue states" but doesn't examine context or culpability of the empire. They'll choose one conflict, downplay 9 others, and give a one-sided view of that one conflict.

That's how propaganda works. Every state produces propaganda. One state produces billions of dollars of propaganda each year.

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