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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by otp@sh.itjust.works to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world

I know MediaBiasFactCheck is not a be-all-end-all to truth/bias in media, but I find it to be a useful resource.

It makes sense to downvote it in posts that have great discussion -- let the content rise up so people can have discussions with humans, sure.

But sometimes I see it getting downvoted when it's the only comment there. Which does nothing, unless a reader has rules that automatically hide downvoted comments (but a reader would be able to expand the comment anyways...so really no difference).

What's the point of downvoting? My only guess is that there's people who are salty about something it said about some source they like. Yet I don't see anyone providing an alternative to MediaBiasFactCheck...

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[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 95 points 4 months ago

Some people are pissed that the format is spammy? That's the complaint I've heard.

I'd certainly prefer something like post tagging/labels but within the current feature set of lemmy I think it's about as good as it could be.

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 41 points 4 months ago

That's my gripe with it. Its single comment fills the entire screen of my phone when scrolling past and it uses gigantic font, a big separator line (?), and links mixed with text mixed with more links.

Additionally, it fucks with the "new comment" and "hot" sorting, depending on how active Lemmy is at the time, by spamming post after post with a comment even though there is no actual discussion happening.

[-] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

You should use a client that supports all of the text formatting. On Voyager the bot’s comment is smaller than most when collapsed (which it is by default).

[-] undefined@links.hackliberty.org 5 points 4 months ago
[-] vanontom@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Yes we can. It's in my blocked users, like any others (using Sync app). I've blocked it mostly because the formatting is lazy and word count excessive. It just "gets in the way". Plus I generally already know the bias of most reputable sources, as do most news junkies.

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

And because it uses spoilers, when I click it to collapse the comment, it just expands

[-] AnActOfCreation@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

What client do you use? It looks fine in Thunder. (I agree it's spammy in general, but not because of the formatting.)

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

It's broken on Eternity as well, it looks like thisScreenshot_20240809_023020_Eternity

[-] AnActOfCreation@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

I wonder if other spoiler tags work in Eternity or if there's something about the way this bot posts that breaks it.

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Looking at the buttons that they give me when I'm commenting it looks like it does support spoilers when done in the >!text!< syntax, but the other alternative version definitely took over.

I've never seen the ::: spoiler text ::: version work

[-] AnActOfCreation@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago

That's partly Lemmy's fault for using a custom spoiler syntax. But yeah it sounds like Eternity doesn't support it yet.

That said, there was an issue in their repo just recently closed, so it sounds like support is coming!

https://codeberg.org/Bazsalanszky/Eternity/issues/172

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

That's great to hear, I love eternity as a client because none of the other ones that I've tried so far have come close to what I'm looking for in a UI and I like the ability to block comments and posts by specific keywords, it really helps when the entire platform as a whole becomes hyper focused on one subject because I can just add that subject to the block list and filter out the flood

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 2 points 4 months ago

I'm using Sync and this is how it looks:

[-] AnActOfCreation@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Like I commented above, I wonder if other spoiler tags work in Sync or if there's something about the way this bot posts that breaks it.

[-] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

I have never seen a bot that does good. Got sick of them on reddit and other sites. So when I see it here which is my safe haven. I will downvote or report it because it has not place here.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 46 points 4 months ago

Or you can just block it to hide it..

[-] Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That's what I said and was down voted for it. Oh well, that's life on lemmy.

Also did that, blocked the bot.

[-] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Fuck that...not getting on admins or anything but sites need to get rid of bots unless they pay the site. And also get rid of clickbait shit that I saw on reddit but not here yet.

[-] Bob_Robertson_IX@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago

So, because you don't like bots, they shouldn't be made available to others who appreciate them? Fuck that.

The beauty of Lemmy is that you are in control of what you see, but that makes that you have to control it. Stop trying to dictate that I can't have bots from instances that allow them.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago

There's a setting you can toggle on the web UI. I hope it's supported on mobile apps.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago

Enabling that option will also have an effect on mobile apps.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 months ago

The bot is made by the instance admins themselves, so don't expect the bot to go away.

[-] tyler@programming.dev 13 points 4 months ago

The bot was literally added by the instance admins. You think they should pay themselves???

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

!remindme 1 week

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

out of personal curiosity, are you seeing this with the bots setting turned off? I thought that setting was a universal setting that just hide all bot posts for the account

[-] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Yes I always turn the bots off whenever its offered.

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