I am a baby bat myself, and no matter how much I try to argue with other people about politics, some arguments take me by surprise and I don't know what to answer people...

I often get questions like:

"where is it written that goths are political"

or

"but the soloists of several gothic bands are conservative, so how can you say that goths are political if even the creators of the songs are like that"

and als

"even if goths came from punks, this is a separate subculture that is not connected with them in any way".

Please help me, I don't know what to answer these people, and I'm already confused myself 😭

Does anyone remember VF forums?

Those used to be the good old days where I’d come come straight from school and hang out in the chat room.

There’s a similar site called VampFreaks.com which looks very nostalgic!

Anyone else heard of it?

Appears to look very similar to the old VF website.

I don’t know if this is vague or not, but I saw a post on another social media platform recently that got me thinking.

The post said something along the lines of: the first time I listened to sisters of mercy and alien sex fiend I fell in love and it felt like I was coming home.

And that got me thinking about how I got into goth. To be honest, it took awhile for me to adjust to goth music and nothing really appealed to me for a long time, until I searched for long enough and found stuff that was actually good. And even now, I don’t really think of it as “home” or some sort of “first love” or anything really sentimentally propped up an a pedestal, it’s just something I like that expresses who I am the best.

Does anyone else feel like me? Or do you disagree? What is goth music to you?

I found them yesterday just randomly in a reccomended songs Playlist and they sound really dark wave, but I'm not sure since I am still a baby bat.

🙏🙏🙏🙏

Opinions?