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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

Am I the only one getting agitated by the word AI (Artificial Intelligence)?

Real AI does not exist yet,
atm we only have LLMs (Large Language Models),
which do not think on their own,
but pass turing tests
(fool humans into thinking that they can think).

Imo AI is just a marketing buzzword,
created by rich capitalistic a-holes,
who already invested in LLM stocks,
and now are looking for a profit.

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[-] jackalope@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago

"real ai" isn't a coherent concept.

Turing test isn't a literal test. It's a rhetorical concept that turing used to underline his logical positivist approach to things like intelligence, consciousness etc.

[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

AI experts in interviews will tell you that like 99% of phrasing around AI used by people is fundamentally incorrect, and that management of corporations are the worst about it.

[-] Kedly@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

People keep saying this, but AI has been used for subroutines nowhere near actual artificial intelligence since at LEAST as long as video games have existed

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[-] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I saw a streamer call a procedurally generated level "ai generated" and I wanted to pull my hair out

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[-] slurp@programming.dev 7 points 9 months ago

I've ranted about this to several people too. Intelligence is hard to define and trying to define it has a horrible history linked to eugenics. That said, I feel like a minimum definition is that it has the capacity to understand the meaning and/or impact of what it is saying and/or doing, which current "AI" is so far from doing.

[-] Markimus@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Yep, it says things though has no understanding of what it is saying: much like strolling through a pet shop, passing the parrot enclosure, and hearing and recoiling at the little kid swear words it cheeps out.

[-] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

LOL, ask anyone in IT marketing how they feel about AI.

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

you are not alone, it annoys me to no avail and I keep correcting & explaining to people who have no clue about how computers and LLMs work.

[-] alien@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

It really depends on how you define the term. In the tech world AI is used as a general term to describe many sorts of generative and predictive models. At one point in time you could've called a machine that can solve arithmetic problems "AI" and now here we are, Feels like the goalpost gets moved further every time we get close so I guess we'll never have "true" AI?

So, the point is, what is AI for you?

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It’s really bugging me that it’s a catch all buzzword that combines any art on the computer into AI when there’s a very hard line from what makes digital art physically drawn by a human and what defines AI. It really annoys me that the whole actors guild cannot seem to understand what vfx stands for and what is AI. Vfx involves hundreds of humans with strong intention and artistic talent of doing literal back breaking work. The other is one wanky human with strong intention speaking loud in a room making shitty graphics that pales in comparison. This still isn’t ‘AI’. This is an asshole with too much power and thinks they are as good as an artist.

someone sketching on photoshop is a human generated image. And this has nothing to do with AI yet so many idiots sweep it into the same bin simply because a paint brush, which is still physically used by a human, was made from 1s and 0s

It also disturbs me me that people don’t hold people accountable for fake ‘AI GENERATED’ news stories or deep fakes and just shrug their shoulders calling it AI. like “oops, skynet is taking over”. No. That’s a human. A shitty horrible human, again, on a computer given too much power. No machine has intention. Only humans do.

If a mobster boss asks someone to take a hit out on someone, mobster boss goes to jail for just as much damage as a murderer. Probably even more so because it is intention. Meanwhile everyone pretends a computer itself is coming up with all this junk as if no human with terrible intention is driving at the wheel.

We gotta go back to naming names.

[-] Oaksey@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

The term “Fuzzy logic” has apparently been around since 1965, can’t keep calling it that.. not that all AI falls under that but a lot of what gets marketed as that would.

[-] Wooki@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You are not. The word predictor hype is real

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Just wait for "quantum ai"

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[-] Seudo@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

We have to work out what intelligence is before we can develop AI. Sentient AI? Forget about it!

[-] oce@jlai.lu 5 points 9 months ago

Yes, AI term is used for marketing, though it didn't start with LLMs, a couple of years before, any ML algorithm was called AI together with the trendy data scientist job.

However, I do think LLMs are very useful, just try them for your daily tasks, you'll see. I'm pretty sure they will become as common as a web search in the future.

Also, how can you tell that the human brain is not mostly a very powerful LLM hosting machine?

[-] KeefChief13@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Get the new samsung blah blah with the new galaxy AI!!!. ENOUGH.

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[-] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 9 months ago

Depends on how you define it. A thermostat or PID controller is artificial, and intelligent enough to hold a comfortable temperature.

[-] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

wait for the next buzzword to come out, it'll pass.

used gpt3 once, but haven't had a use case for it since.

i'll use an """AI""" assistant when they are legitimately useful.

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[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

EXACTLY.

voice-to-image or text-to-image is as much ‘AI’ as window’s voice-to-text feature. It’s an accessibility feature.

[-] gerryflap@feddit.nl 4 points 9 months ago

I dislike it because it is usually used by the kind of people or media that live from buzzword to buzzword. IoT, Cloud, Big Data, Crypto, Web 3.0, AI, etc. I'm quite interested in deep learning and have done some research in the field as well. Personally, I don't think AI is necessarily a misnomer, the term has been used forever, even for simple stuff like a naive Bayes classifier, A*, or decision trees. It's just so unfortunate to see this insanely impressive technology being used as the newest marketing gimmick. Or used in unethical and irresponsible ways because of greed (looking at you, "Open"AI). A car doesn't need AI, a fridge doesn't need AI, most things don't need AI. And AI is certainly not at the level where it makes sense to yeet 30% of your employees either.

I don't hate AI or the awesome technology, I hate that it has become a buzzword and a tool for the lawless billionaires to do whatever they please.

[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

It's an establish term in the field since the1950s.

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