Textual words from them:
It’s our first step towards a more modern, more beautiful, and more customizable Thunderbird experience. We think you’re going to love it, and we are endlessly grateful for all of your support throughout the years 💙
I used Thunderbird about 10 years ago? Looks amazing compared to what I remember.
It looked almost the same as the last time tou used it just before this version. Which means this is an absolutely huge step forward for the UI
~~I used Thubderbird about 10 minutes ago and this indeed looks amazing compared to what I remember~~.
Edit; how to downgrade to the version? why still no conversation view? 😭
Great. Downgrading deleted my profile. Thanks a lot for the constant "innovation",gonna take me hours to set thst shit up again.
Edit 2; no matter how frustrated you are with thunderbird, DO NOT INSTALL OUTLOOK
just copy over your profile backup that you certainly created beforehand
If you downgrade, expect glitches with your too new profile. Obviously it's not going to be backwards-compatible.
I don't like the new logo; it looks mean. The previous logo showed a charming bird that delivered my mail, the new one portrays a bird of prey clutching a letter, it will probably bite you if you try to retrieve the letter.
He's protecting your mail for you, I like him
Is this better?
Now it looks like it's hiding something.
Marking valid emails as junk 👀
Looking sus
Looks nice. I'm not an email power user but I still use Thunderbird just to handle multiple accounts. I'm grateful to this software for simplifying my life a bit.
The new website is also pretty epic: https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/ (bit messed up on mobile)
Unfortunately the flathub version doesn't seem to be updated.
Yeah, the downloads section is not looking good (on Safari at least)
It works on Chromium browsers. It does not work on Firefox.
Interesting to see even Mozilla apparently testing their websites only on Chromium.
I may try Thunderbird again. Only thing I do not like about the screenshots is the far left toolbar, but I will still check it out.
I just tried it out. Good that it allows you to collapse it.
Outlook is trying to force that on users as well...it's really a waste of screen real estate for those of us who never use that toolbar.
They finally updated the calendar so it doesn't look like it's out of windows 95? Thank god. I really wanna use it now but I'm too tied down to Outlook now. I guess I'll try to migrate.
If it had a mobile app it would make it much easier. The Outlook mobile app is really good.
They have renamed the K9 app to Thunderbird Mobile
I believe they've inherited the K-9 Mail app project but haven't yet renamed it. At least it's still showing up as K-9 Mail for me on an Android device.
Coming Soon^TM^
But yeah, they're plugging away at it yet. Basically, K-9 sat in maintenance mode for a good while, and while it worked, there's a lot of tidying up to do yet. I imagine they'll have the Thunderbird name on it once it has some of the bigger pieces in place.
Looks very gnome. Sadly I use KDE so it still looks like a foreign object, just like Firefox. I want native app to look like native apps, is that too much to ask?
is that too much to ask?
Let's say it's a lot to ask, especially when the app also needs to be crossplatform and behave functionally the same on all platforms.
Maybe it could be done, in theory, with a lot of work, but it's definitely not at all an easy task, especially for a project that seemed dead and buried just a few years ago and with just a handful of volunteer devs.
Most crossplatform apps that I can think of don't really look like native apps in any system. I'm thinking of Chromium, VSCode, Discord, Steam etc.
The only one I can think of right now is Whatsapp, but I'm pretty sure they actually developed three independent apps and maintain all three, for Android, iOS and Windows. They all look and feel like native apps because they are. Please tell me if I'm wrong.
Still, you can't expect all, or even most developers to do something like that, especially when you start including all the different DEs and themes and so on.
Hopefully after this they focus on the IOS app! Would love to consolidate so many different chat, email, and rss readers into one app!
Just installed, it looks much better compared to 102 without removing any functionality. I love it!
I tried using Thunderbird like a decade ago. Wasnt a fan. May give it another try!
Why the hell can't I get that side by side view?
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1217722
Change it to "Vertical", if that's what you mean.
Oh no! It looks like an electron app.
Can anyone confirm whether or not it's built on Electron?
The closest I can find is from Feb 2023, saying that at that time it would not be Electron:
Mozilla also still plans to use the Firefox web browser as the core platform for Thunderbird. That leaves Thunderbird as one of the few cross-platform mail applications that isn’t an Electron app or based on web technologies in some way
So possibly Electron-like but based on Firefox rather than Chromium?
From what I've read, it is not, but it basically contains Firefox to do the rendering.
It's based on the "Mozilla application framework" [0]
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_application_framework
I’ve used thunderbird pretty much from the start, for the last 20 years or so. The UI was looking a bit dated, lately, so I’m really looking forward to this. The next thing we need is better performance (I may suffer more than most as I have literally hundreds of thousands of messages and dozens of folders on the imap server). Fingers crossed!
I hope they fixed the performance as well. I have several crashes per day on debian with version 102.11.0
When starting it I have to wait for a bit before I click anything, otherwise it crashes. It also 100%s one CPU core regularly, I don't know if that is supposed to happen. It also sometimes does not show the content of certain emails. All that said it's still the best mail client I've used so far.
Eh... it's pretty, I guess, but it's just too "appified" for power users. My Thunderbird UI is festooned with useful buttons and menus for quick access, and I like the old style of having elements tightly spaced to maximize contextual awareness.
This reeks of form over function. Yuck.
Nice looking icon for sure. Fancy
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