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RULES UPDATE: MOLDY POSTING AND AI POSTING (files.catbox.moe)

submitted 10 months ago by moss to c/196

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Sorry for two new pinned posts within the span of 24 hours. after coming back I figured some of the rules needed some updating, and it is policy to put any rule change up to vote for the members.

The two changes I currently would like to make, is increased enforcement of the moldy posting rule, and a new rule banning AI generated content.

moldy posting is when you post a meme that you would find on your aunt's Facebook page or Elon musk's Twitter account. I'm talking properly old, moldy, watermarked, painfully irrelevant posts. I think we should remove them simply because they kind of suck, and removing them would raise the level of quality of 196.

I believe we should ban AI generated content because it is exploitative by nature, and I don't think we should be feeding it.

please discuss in the comments, and vote on whether or not you think these changes should be made. vote on each change separately. if there are any other rule changes that you would like to suggest, now is the time.

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[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

These are very good rules imo, especially the AI. I do like the idea of a Moldy Monday or something though, or being kinda lenient about allowing some on, just because they can be funny in an ironic way

[-] Franzia 3 points 10 months ago

I think AI isnt exploitative by nature. The companies that own it of course are. AI is better as a technology if you are anti-copyright, as copyright almost universally protects profits of publishers and the owning class rather than creative laborers. However, AI also rarely makes interesting images or posts. Its kinda shit.

My take is I'm play with banning AI, but if someone in our community had the skills to use it to make quality posts I would be very open to it.

AI: ban it. Keep an eye open for quality AI posts though. Moldy: Ban it.

[-] Franzia 3 points 10 months ago

NGL the thing that will improve the quality of c/196 is getting me to follow the rule and encouraging original posts rather than sharing content. What makes a community great is understanding those who are in it.

[-] janet_catcus 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

i have no aunt and i dont follow the loner, i am (not really) looking forward to learn what moldy memes are...

oh and fuck ai from the orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I disagree with the rule banning AI content. Especially the dumb original imgflip AI can just generate super funny dumb captions to classical meme templates, and there is no harm in doing this (you cannot even decide with 100% certainty whether a human or an AI has generated it).
I also used to generate dumb nonsense jokes with the early open source LLMs (long before ChatGPT got released).

I think saying AI content is exploitative in nature is a bit short-sighted and just generalizing about all the different types of AI. If I, e.g. program my own AI to e.g. play a game, and make a meme about that, that's not exploitative. Imitating people's art without their consent is something different though.

I think it would be good to revisit this rule and maybe specify what exact content are not allowed or think about this, since generally there can be good AI meme content (also on a meta-layer, e.g. about people who take obvious fake AI pictures as something real) and just outright banning all of them is a bad idea in my opinion.

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