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submitted 9 months ago by Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I feel like things on Lemmy were pretty chill several months ago, and that’s started to change.

People used to talk each other like they would talk to a neighbor. Now I get the sense that people have become quick to be negative, attack, and not be constructive.

Am I crazy in feeling like the vibe has changed?

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[-] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 7 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I feel the comments are getting worse as well, though from seeing the upvote numbers and less tankies/hexbears, I'm guessing some old folks are leaving and new people are joining. Guess it's only natural.

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[-] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

The subject of the arguments is certainly politics (and war and religion), but the source of the arguments is strongly differing world views.

Despite what we'd like to believe about ourselves, humans are not well-adapted to being exposed to a wide variety of differing viewpoints. We evolved in small, racially and socially homogenous groups, for the most part. Up until the Industrial Revolution, the vast majority of humanity lived and died within 30 miles of where they were born, and only had daily interaction with what was essentially an extended family.

Travel, mass immigration, and the Internet changed all that. Being exposed to such a diversity of opinion on a daily basis quite simply breaks our brains. It causes a tremendous amount of internal conflict and stress, for some more than others. That constant strain becomes more intense when there is war, such as in Gaza and Ukraine, or particularly divisive politics. There are obviously some extremely contentious elections coming up, including the US election, which has tremendous global implications. There are, no doubt, people on Lemmy right now for whom the result of the US election is a matter of life and death, and yet they aren't US citizens and can't vote.

We should all take a chill pill and try to be less confrontational and use less emotionally-charged language when it comes to hot button issues. The politics and news subs are an avalanche of charged words and phrases like genocide, fascist, apartheid, Nazi, racist, transphobic, anti-gay, religious zealot, and many others. Those are fighting words. Deserved or not, words like that not only reflect, but also create, a lot of emotional dissonance and stress, which lead to emotionally charged arguments.

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[-] Aradia@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

When they are insulting should mean that they have no arguments... maybe they have issues on their life. Who knows, but it's a waste of time to reply to them.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Many will tell you this is normal and just how the internet is.

How depressing.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I've said it before, Lemmy is a fickle place.

I expect it will get better with time as we get more users.

[-] Lath@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago

Yes. Yes you are.
This vibe has been here from the start. But it was kept at bay by defederating left and right from "troublemakers".
Problem is actual troublemakers don't care where they are. All they have to do is make a new account and keep on troubling.
So all the isolation managed to do is slow down the conflict, make it less visible. And it worked too.
Yet you can't stop the fighting, not for long anyway.

We have to fight, have to make drama. Peaceful living is too boring all the time.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

A couple days ago someone was trying to debatebro me I told them to eff off and that I wasn't going to humor their bad-faith ass.

Was expecting to get hate for it but instead woke up to 20 votes on the comment. It's awesome.

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[-] mortrek@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

Aggressive yes, and more people deliberately misinterpreting what you say just to feel smug. Also people that don't understand that a Lemmy comment can't have the exhaustive detail and context of a Wikipedia article, and they take any omission of such in a comment as ignorance by the op.

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Depends on the threads you discuss i guess, I find it pretty chill

[-] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Especially the grammar Nazis that floated here on a turd from the reddit cesspool.

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[-] Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

The halcyon days of Lemmy lasted a week or so. As soon as you have mods coming over for Reddit you have all the shit they are schlepoed along with them. I’m only in here when I’m shitting and then only because I’ve memorised the blurb on the back of the air freshener can already.

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[-] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago

Simply a side effect of successful user growth without adequate growth in moderation of the user base. Same thing has happened on every forum since the first BBS

[-] OtakuAltair@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

A symptom of rising tensions around the world in recent months, and this platform already being a political space.

[-] bhamlin@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago
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