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submitted 2 years ago by dessalines@lemmy.ml to c/meta@lemmy.ml

It should come as no surprise that the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to pre-emptively block threats / Meta. Their transparent and opportunistic scheme to commodify the fediverse and it's users will not be allowed to proceed.

We strongly encourage other instance administrators to do the same, given the grave threat they pose to the fediverse.

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[-] Vlyn@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Thank you!

Meta will only go full on E/E/E on the fediverse, even by "accident" (like adding new features and breaking the standard). Better choke them off right from the start and build small organic communities instead.

[-] kava@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Ok so they make new features on their threads platform. All of a sudden cross posting from lemmy to threads gets more difficult because they aren't respecting the standard.

Now what? Are all Lemmy users gonna flood over to Threads now? The vast majority don't even want to federated to Threads, let alone migrate their accounts.

I think this whole thing is overblown. EEE is a real thing but nobody has yet to provide a concrete mechanism that can come about from just federation with Threads.

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[-] buco@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Great news, now let's hope every instance follows.

[-] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Excellent news. I would have moved to another instance that did block if .ml didn't block them. Thank you for this lemmy.ml

[-] flexcyness@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Is it me or he looks like Queen Elizabeth

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago
[-] Eikichi@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Its Nice to hear

[-] MysticSmear@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I don’t understand this logic. Don’t we want Lemmy to be more mainstream and user friendly? Preemptively blocking any mainstream attempt to connect and bring in more users just sounds slightly petulant to me. Like I get meta = shitty company but I don’t get why we shouldn’t encourage more people joining the fediverse. And getting external help in growing it. And threads was the first mainstream olive branch that showed Lemmy, Kbin, and mastodon has legitimacy worth building infrastructure to join.

Idk blocking other people categorically from connecting just seems antithetical to the idea that it should be a decentralized system free to all to join.

But I’m new here, so maybe Im mistaken on the ethos of Lemmy.

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[-] alvanrahimli@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

To be honest, I dont think this is that good of an idea. We need to stop talking about profile, but focus on the content in it. People like me could be able to follow friends and family over on threads, which could help in terms of user lock in.

Blocking them could be good idea if lemmy was big enough to compete.

[-] Zyansheep@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

I'd argue that we need to be blocking them now, and then perhaps consider unblocking if we grow large enough.

Not blocking early is what XMPP did and it was basically destroyed by google's disproportionate network effect: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

I can see something very similar happening to lemmy, where instead of letting communities grow naturally on separate instances into hardened, well moderated, popular communities, facebook's version of "lemmy communities" will take over the All page for everyone, all the time, with facebook-controlled content, simply because their userbase is so large that no other lemmy community could compete with the upvote counts. That's just one way network effects could screw us over, who knows how many different ways facebook could extend and extinguish the decentralized nature of lemmy like google did to XMPP...

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[-] Strangle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Can someone eli5 what’s going on with this?

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[-] Raphael@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I hope beehaw does it too despite their status a pro-liberal instance.

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Liberal/free market ideals are very well aligned with Fediverse/Lemmy: freedom to chose social media providers without being locked-in, free market of instances, free market of both front-end/backend software, freedom to run or fork the software myself...

Sure, I didn't get to chose this instance's policy, but a) I could find another or start my own if I disagreed (Not so different than electing representatives in a liberal democracy), and b) so far I don't disagree with this policy as Facebook is a threat to some basic software freedoms...

Personally I dislike all the -ism labels. Issues are complex with often contradictory stances. It's almost as though labels are used to divide people on otherwise common issues and common ground by oversimplifying policies into tribalism.

[-] redditcunts@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Can anyone point out any servers who aren't federating for folks who want threads?

[-] sneezy@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

Very good! I sincerely hope all the others will too. If lemm.ee won't, I know where I'll be moving to ;)

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[-] synth@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

preemptively blocking an instance just because it’s owned by meta and not due to bad conduct is cringe as fuck

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