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In some of the music communities I'm in the content creators are already telling their userbase to go follow them on threads. They're all talking about some kind of beef between Elon and Mark and the possibility of a boxing match... Mark was right to call the people he's leaching off of fucking idiots.

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[-] HeavyDogFeet@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Privacy is complicated and often a luxury. Not everyone has the technical understanding to protect their privacy, nor the money to always choose the privacy-conscious option (which are almost always paid options). And to be honest, they shouldn't really have to if governments did their jobs and brought in effective privacy protection laws.

[-] ExcessivelySalty@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Not just that, but I think the average person also thinks with social media being around 15-20 years already, that their data is probably already out there on the Internet anyways.

So because of that, they just don't care.

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[-] Xepher_X@mastodon.social 7 points 2 years ago

@BraBraBra Convenience will always win out with the masses. There needs to be more tangible benefits for doing something more inconvenient than losing privacy for that to change.

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[-] Kururin@talk.kururin.tech 7 points 2 years ago

That’s your dumb average person. Personally I am fine with it cause it’s a choice they make.

[-] markr@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

People obviously enjoy The Algorithm. They enjoy a feed that is constantly full. The fact that it is full of noxious shit is irrelevant. Those that come here from The Algorithm to mastodon or lemmy or anywhere else where The Algorithm is not present are immediately put off. Effort is required to fill your feed, it is an active rather than a passive experience. There is something entirely sexual about this dynamic. People enjoy being brain fucked by The Algorithm.

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[-] FinalBoy1975@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I really wish there could be a law that says that if they want people to use their platform so they can use their data they have to pay people for their data. Data is money, but only to the companies that suck up my data and use it to make money. If my data is worth money I want money for my data. If companies had to pay me for my data I would consider using Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, et. al. if the price were right. This is no doubt a very impossible wish. They also say time is money and there is no law requiring people to pay me when they waste my time. But, I can dream. Imagine getting a nice check in exchange for signing up for Instagram.

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[-] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 7 points 2 years ago

I understand your frustration entirely. And for the most part, I agree with it. But for music producers, especially if they're indie, they have no choice. Content creators trying to make a living off of their art rely on putting themselves out there on the biggest platforms to maximize the amount of exposure they're going to get. The importance of social media with millions upon millions of users for an indie artist cannot be understated. It is the difference between them paying rent, and getting evicted.

As for the average user, as others have stated, they have friends, family, and content creators that they like to follow. Digital privacy comes at a cost. We cannot afford to create the misconception that acts protecting our digital privacy are free actions. And the level of cost and willingness to pay it varies from person to person. I don't need Facebook to keep up with my parents. But many people do. For their parents and the rest of their family and loved ones. I was willing to make the switch to Linux, but it cost me some simplicity in my gaming; some titles aren't just plug n play. Even ones that were on Windows. Switching to Lemmy was nothing for me, but for some people, they're giving up subreddits they loved, or they have to keep using Reddit to access them. And there are some valuable resources there.

Privacy isn't free. It's invaluable and sometimes the price tag reflects that.

[-] cincinmasukmangkok@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Normies are cancer that make EEE & surveillence possible

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[-] Shogokid@eslemmy.es 6 points 2 years ago

They don't care because they don't know the immediate consequences, if any.

My sister told me about a friend of hers who was about to get blackmailed by some random guy who claimed to have her child, he used a Facebook photo as proof. Aside from the bullshit extortion intent, after hearing the story, my sister became more cautious with the information she shared on social networks.

The extortionist thing can be extrapolated to the large companies that use our data for their own benefit, but the common citizen cannot see the danger in that because the companies are not "extorting" you, they just want to sell you their shit at any cost.

[-] EmperorHenry@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

The average person also doesn't care about their own right to free speech or their right to bodily autonomy or agency over their own lives.

There's people out there that jumped at the chance to have an ID chip put under their skin and to have a QR code associated with all their identity info.

People don't realize the threat of centralized supreme authority that's accountable to no one. And it's really sad.

I get downvoted for being in favor of free speech, because I bring up free speech rights whenever someone says something bigoted. If you don't support the free speech rights of the people you hate the most then you're against free speech. Censoring a bigot is only going to make them double down on their beliefs. But reaching out and having a civil conversation with a bigot can make them realize that the people they hate are going through the same problems they are.

Everyone gets fucked on their taxes, everyone is getting a lower wage than what their employer could give, everyone is paying more rent than they should, everyone is paying a higher interest on their debts than they should.

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[-] Kentendo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

At this point I think they have everything they would want from me. Even if I started to care now I feel like it's too late.

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[-] slikaz02@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Most people do not but over the past five years, privacy has become more of a concern in peoples lives I would say

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I don't think there's a good reason to be worried about this aspect of my "privacy," and I think the people who care are borderline chemtrail-level mistaken about how this data is used.

I am pro data collection, as a whole.

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[-] effingjoe@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

What do you mean when you say "privacy"? Threads isn't more or less private than using any other federated service-- they all share everything you do on them with everything else anyway. I guess federation doesn't share things like your email and IP address, so there is some privacy-related concerns, so maybe that's what you meant?

The big distinction between threads and, say, Mastodon is that Mastodon doesn't have an algorithm. The minor distinctions are more along the lines of it being open source and not controlled by a giant corporation. I am not surprised that most people don't care about (or maybe actively seek out) a service with an algorithm, let alone about the benefits of FOSS.

[-] samokosik@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Issue with threads is the app constantly collects everything such as location, card details etc

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[-] lemminer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ease of use comes first. Normies are very ignorant when you try to indulge them into technicalities. They do care about privacy, but then have a real life to worry about, than leaving a unique fingerprint while browsing the internet. Most of all of them, are unaware about this situation.

Someone(GAFAM) at some point have made a decision for the internet to fill it up with bloat shit to track what you're doing, else there wouldn't be a need for a privacy guide.

[-] float@waveform.social 5 points 2 years ago

To be fair, you basically have to give up on your privacy if you want to be a public figure these days. To make it most musicians have to constantly evangelize themselves, which means being omnipresent on social media platforms.

[-] bouncing@partizle.com 6 points 2 years ago

Posting your band's tour dates on Facebook doesn't really even change your privacy status that much.

Whether you have a Facebook account or not, Facebook tracks you around the web. Data brokers sell your data. Your cell phone company sells your location and browsing history, etc.

People over-estimate how much not using any given social media app really matters.

Now granted, installing it on your phone gives them a level of data they wouldn't have from a web browser. That's probably why Threads is phone-only.

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[-] Caffeinated_Capybara@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

The average person definitely doesn't imo. Threads is easy to get into and has a fast growing user base. Those make it more appealing then privacy ever would for the average person.

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