Right? I stopped viewing anything other than a few curated subs after a while because I realised all it was doing was making me angry and upset. It can't be healthy to be exposed to that constantly.

I generally do appreciate the high quality of the posts here. I give it five to seven years before it degrades but then we'll have higher numbers of users and niche communities with higher quality of convo.

I've noticed, over the last month or so, a lot of right wing hate subs have started making their way to the front pages in r/all and r/polular.

Unfortunately hate = engagement = advertising impressions = money

That's why it's important to like, and comment, and thank posters for positive posts.

What's great is that if specific instances get toxic they can get banned, but the power isn't concentrated in few hands like Reddit.

When Reddit was announcing the API changes I had a similar (but stupid) idea of using Blockchain to create something similar but that would be A) slow as fuck and B) problematic.

Lemmy is goated

That's why every sub I moderated had a hard no politics, no incivility rule in place.

You'd be amazed how much of the nastiness goes away when you just ban anyone breaking either rule. Things turn chill and friendly. The posts and comments start staying on topic, and (eventually) users start most reporting when the rules get broken instead of getting nasty themselves.

As much shit as I would get in modmail and DMs, it was worth it to be able to go into a niche sub and just have these relaxing, friendly conversations.

The outrage machine, as you brilliantly name it, is the default now. But we can change that, and we can definitely keep it out of the fediverse as it grows, as long as we're vigilant and don't fall prey to it oursleves

10 year user. I agree what used to be a place for discussion, jokes, fun comment chains, devolved into rage bait and vitriol. I definitely don't miss it.

While at first I was upset at the destruction of Reddit and lamented my routine, I am now so happy it happened. We all needed a new place to reset and be human again.

I had to make sure I didn’t somehow write this in my sleep or something, it’s word-for-word exactly what I’ve been thinking for the past few years.

Many subs are solely focused on generating outrage, hate, anger, being infuriated, and just general discontent. Baiting people with strawmen of groups they dislike, obviously fake tweets/exchanges to get people riled up, etc.

Although none of this is particularly new, /r/fatpeoplehate, /r/____inAction, and other straight up racist subs were vicious to the point of some being banned years ago.

But now it’s more of a general ragebait machine that creeps onto /r/all regularly and can take over any subreddit completely without proper moderation.

Reddit has so many people on it it behaves like society. If you're in a bad neighborhood (sub) you're going to deal with bad people.

I've been saying this for a couple of years.

My hope is the negative people are the ones using the main reddit app and they just stay there.

Let's keep good vibes here!

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Tbf lemmy just went through a huge wave of fuck spez posts not too long ago. And still is ongoing to some degree

How do you think that Lemmy won't be any different as it scales and grows? I've already seen plenty of trolling and snark around here.

Welcome to 10'ish years ago, OP.

You guys remember the old internet? Filled with Usenet trolls? Somethingawful doxxes? The bullying of Star Wars kid? Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project? I don't know if it's human nature but the outrage is in the bones of the internet.

This is an ongoing problem with our Information Age. The fediverse already has this problem, though to a much lesser degree than reddit. Look at the structure of titles of threads on the political magazines/communities here. They are designed to make you outraged, because the sources they come from made their titles with engagement in mind and that permeates over to here. My hope is that the group of people on the fediverse, who are more interested in the future of the internet than most, will give rise to an idea that helps combat this problem.

Just check out /r/politics here, it’s not reddit-specific.

I don't think it was gradual, it was an active admin corps that tried to build balance with progressive Redditors by allowing Nazi thugs free rein to brigade, troll, and spread their hate.

Yes it patently and profoundly idiotic to try and counter empathy with Aryan Christofacism.

And so we find ourselves in the Fediverse and hoping it won't go the same way again.

It’s the humiliation spez deserves after such spectacularly bad management. Good luck with the IPO, dumbass!

The users of reddit in no way mirrored the real world. I consider myself an indepentant in real life, I vote based off of issues that are important to me, I get my news primarily from Reuters and the AP, but I found myself filtering out more and more subreddits as they became filled with hate.

Neutral sounding subreddits such as Politics and News became hate filled groups that attacked anyone right of the far left.

I've abstained from contributing to reddit for years due to this and hope Lemmy doesn't experience the same hate filled fall.

So much outrage and doom. The algorithm rewarded people being more and more extreme, even about real problems.

Like, yes I lean left like reddit, but not every issue is the biggest scandal that has ever existed.

If you get swept up in that stuff, you'd think the world was about to end. And you'd frequently encounter people who think just so.

I was also a Digg refuge so spend the last decade and a bit there the biggest gripe with what changed is everyone has the need to be contrarian and be "right" even if that's making a comment about missing a comma or trying to do some six degrees of Kevin Bacon to get to a non-existent issue in a discussion. No one can just say I don't enough about X they have to be the biggest nerd in the room at all times.

Then people just downvoted again, so they could feel "right" without anyone contributing to the discussion. So what should be a back and forth of good conversation between people who are interested in a thing becomes a black and white opinion point scoring game of imaginary internet scores.