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[-] tastypoobutt@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There’s no one standalone reason why I think macOS is better than Windows for productivity. Instead of a single killer blow, it’s death by a series of smaller wounds.

The only real way of describing it. So many little niceties from decades of attentiveness, even if things have been backsliding in recent years.

[-] octalfudge@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Fantastic description! This is an issue that made it difficult to justify to my management to allow them to allow Macs, but thankfully Apple Silicon was big enough of a game changer to sway the decision

[-] Tinkering_simpleton@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Exactly my case. Apple Silicon was a game changer in relation to performance against cost. Was able to replace my old top PC with a mac mini and improve my work on Adobe suite. Impressive. The ecosystem with my iPhone was also an amazing improvement. Airdrop is fantastic.

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[-] kostel_thecreed@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

This was the reason I switched to Mac for work related stuff, the performance is insane for most of the stuff I need it to do.

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[-] tdawg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It just works. Something that can’t be said of how windows feels

[-] bappity@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

this is one of those subjective things that highly depend on what your job actually entails

[-] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 year ago

I moved from a desktop PC to a 2015 MBP and I've been extremely satisfied with it. It's nothing short of a miracle how little issues I've had with it. It's fast and everything just work. Was expensive as hell but worth every penny.

That being said my next laptop is probably not going to me a MacBook but the Framework laptop. Not only do I not like Apple as a company but I also want to support what Framework is doing and the only way to do that is by putting money where my mouth is.

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[-] dekatron@lemmy.fmhy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Anyone trying to batch rename files on Windows should check out PowerToys. It's a first-party app that adds a lot of useful utilities. One of them is PowerRename, which lets you batch rename files using regex for precise search and replace. It also has the option to preview changes before applying them.

[-] Laxaria@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

PowerToys is crucial for making Windows feel productive. Definitely get that installed.

[-] zerbey@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

macOS is a great OS, and I've used it pretty extensively now. Every time I try to make it my primary OS I end up wanting to go back to Windows soon after. And this is from a die hard Linux advocate. Part of the issue is the cost and lack of easy upgrades for the hardware, the other is I just find macOS to be frustrating for anything but normal "user" stuff. So for me: Linux for servers and hobbyist stuff, macOS if no other option, Windows for just about everything else.

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[-] Lowered_lifted@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

This article is ridiculous because it doesn't mention why these differences exist at all. Like for example Macs don't have window snapping because Microsoft patented that feature back in the Windows Vista days. & Batch file renaming is a Unix thing. I have always liked Exposé and hot corners and also mission control, but many windows users hate it. It's entirely subjective and not at all rational. I guess that's the point of an opinion piece but it really lacks the context that would have made this article informative, just a little research would have been cool.

[-] ThrowThrowThrewaway8@vlemmy.net 5 points 1 year ago

It seems wild that something like dragging a window to the corner to snap it into place is patented. The one feature I long for on Mac.

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[-] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

I use both MacOS and Windows.

I think both have their uses and strengths. I don't really like putting one down over the other.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Same. I usually say “they both suck.” Neither one really meets my expectations for what a desktop operating system should be able to do these days. Every now and then I find myself wishing for some little feature enhancement in Finder and shucks… that’s just never going to happen, is it?

[-] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

What's an example of an enhancement that you're looking for that's not possible? For that matter, what expectations do you have for a desktop OS that they don't satisfy? Does any OS satisfy those expectations? It seems a bit contrarian to just say they're all terrible and I feel like the answer is going to be some very weird, esoteric thing that you can only do on a customized Linux install.

I use my Mac as my daily driver but also have a gaming PC, a Linux machine for testing, and a Steam Deck. I wouldn't say at all that macOS sucks. Linux is 2nd for me. Windows just gets worse with every release.

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[-] And009@vlemmy.net 4 points 1 year ago

I love building PCs, I like windows for gaming. Mac is pretty much useless there and the PS5 doesn't have a keyboard or mouse which makes it a different experience. . A pc can be anything.

But I'd never use windows for work over MacOS. The seamless integration with an iPad for sketching and overall experience is amazing.

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[-] tvbusy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even before reading the article, I can already guessed that the author uses only the laptop's screen for work. I tried MacOS for 6 months, really liked that I can ultilize many of Linux commands that I only used to manage servers. But using multiple monitors is such a pain with MacOS that I can never understand how people put up with it. I then slowly understand why people keep saying "I can't see you or if you raised your hand" during meetings, it's because they use only one single screen.

I do think MacOS will have a huge advantage over Windows and Linux if they overhaul the window system. However, seeing how "holding it wrong" consistently coming up in discussion, I don't see any chance soon, if ever.

[-] joneskind@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Lol, is that a joke ???

I use Linux and MacOS. The scaling tools on Linux are the absolute worst. I have a 15 inch 1080p laptop plugged to a 24 inch display and this is a fucking nightmare to make the two working correctly. Whatever the distribution or the GNU, being Gnome, XFCE, Wayland, Sway. Arch or Debian based…

On the other hand I got a 14 inch MBP connected to 2 UltraFine 24 and an 2560x1080 monitor with absolutely zero issue.

I can adapt every single definition on every single screen, and the system remembers the def I set when plugging/unplugging.

MacOS external screen management tools is the best I’ve ever seen.

Your comment shows that you know absolutely nothing about macOS

[-] tvbusy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Your comment shows that you know absolutely nothing about macOS

I think this is the biggest problem with Apple: you're holding it wrong. Apple cannot be wrong and there can never be any discussion about how to approach a problem, let alone address it. There can't never be a problem, and that's what's wrong with MacOS.

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[-] svprdga@vlemmy.net 4 points 1 year ago

What's wrong with multiple monitors with macOS?

[-] DH10@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago
  1. M1 only supports 1 extra monitor. (M1 pro does support two, but only through an expensive thunderbolt dock or through two cables from different USB/TB ports.
  2. No volume adjustment of external monitors if they are not from Apple.

There are maybe many more (maybe no window snapping like windows if you count that), but those are the issues that I noticed.

[-] joneskind@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

You are saying absolute shit

M1 supports one external 4K display on laptop, two on the mini

M1 Pro supports 2 external 6K displays on laptop, 3 on the mini

You can extend any M1 Capability with an external hub.

Furthermore, you are comparing Linux (an Operating System) to the M1 (hardware). That’s stupid.

[-] aabram@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

M1 supports one external 4K display on laptop, two on the mini

Yea, they key here being 4K. Try connecting 1080p or 1440p which normal people tend to have around and you get terrible scaling.

[-] shinjiikarus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I am a diehard Apple fanboy and don’t see any viable alternative for any of their main product lines. But their multi monitor performance is comically bad: I have Thunderbolt docks and two monitors work fine through that from a technical perspective. Though dragging windows between monitors is not seamless and macOS even rubs it in your face with some quirky UI hints when you are “leaving” one monitor and enter another like it’s the 90s. Icons and real life data in the menu bar have had scaling issues for a decade now on the screen you are not currently active on with a window (but can still see in real life, because eyes). There is an old desktop wallpaper saved somewhere from when I first connected the monitors that stays on the second one (the first monitor has my normal wallpaper). I know I can change this independently, but why?! When opening monitor settings you can adjust things like refresh rate or color profile independently, which is nice, but each window for adjustments opens on the screen it is adjusting. Apple’s whole multi monitor experience feels clunky and dated and hasn’t been getting any improvements for years, which tells me, nobody at Apple uses multiple screens.

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[-] Chadsmo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The last version of Windows I used on a computer I owned is 3.1

Every time I need to use Windows I’m so insanely lost and have next to no idea what I’m doing, like it’s seriously like I’m 80 yrs old and using a computer for the first time lol.

It doesn’t help that it feels like it’s vastly different in how the start menu works depending on which version I’m using.

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[-] sourweasel@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I much prefer MacOS over windows due to the spotlight search. The only thing I wish was added is a detailed audio interface. It’s frustrating having to go to a app to turn it up or down.

[-] xts@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah a volume mixer that isn’t natively built in is a very missed opportunity. I don’t want to have to pay extra money for software that most other OSes ship with lol

[-] AperiOperimentum@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I use Mac for productivity but windows for gaming. I love spotlight on macOS. I recently discovered PowerToys for Windows (made by Microsoft), which includes a little add on that provides spotlight-like function on windows. You can even assign your own keyboard command to it, so I have main assigned to WIN+Space, just like Mac.

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[-] dekatron@lemmy.fmhy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

One of the things I still love about my 11" MacBook Air is the ease of using multiple desktops (spaces). Even with the tiny screen, I can quickly switch between apps and keep things organised with the trackpad gestures. Drag and drop is also more seamless in macOS compared to Windows.

[-] Tanel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Windows also has multiple desktop “spaces”, but the touch side is way smoother on the mac.

[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I really want a modern 11" (small bezel) MacBook.

Of course I also want the 15" air so maybe I just like cool stuff. But I think there's a place for a real ultraportable that's not trying to kludge any of the awful keyboard cases on an iPad.

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[-] spark947@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Kde plasma is working great for me! Just upgraded to bookworm. I'm definitely not going back to a proprietary system.

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

I'm glad they mentioned rectangle, I found that app amazing. I have however upgraded to Amethyst for my app tiling though.

I'm a dev, so if I'm not doing .NET development. I found windows quite limiting. The new terminal stuff is nice but it's native on a mac. I'm not sure about Docker because that really spins the fans on my 16 Intel Pro.

Also, things like Spaces and virtual desktops have been pretty sweet for a long time now. Windows, I can't recall but it's been a horribly broken PowerToy for so long. I can't believe people were to recommending it. I think some people were telling me it's native now, but like, it's crazy how it wasn't done properly years ago.

[-] sleepybear@lemmy.myspamtrap.com 6 points 1 year ago

I’ve found Magnet to be great for snapping windows about the screen.

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[-] herrvogel@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Docker is not great on MacOS on Apple Silicon. Docker engine uses A TON of memory, around 8 gigs even with no containers running, and you can run into compatibility issues. My office, where we use Docker extensively, upgraded everyone's workstations to Apple silicon Macbook pros recently. We've been less than thrilled so far because turns out one of the images that we use as the base for many of our projects has trouble running on ARM chips. We fixed the problem, but still it was a whole thing. And there's no guarantee another similar problem won't pop up in the future either, unfortunately.

While it undeniably is a fantastic machine otherwise, I honestly think a higher end Dell or whatever that runs Linux would have been a better choice for the job. At least for the developer staff.

[-] joneskind@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

So your problem has nothing to do with ARM architecture or macOS itself, but on a lack of RAM.

Docker uses a lot of RAM on every platform, not only on macOS.

Looks like your company made a bad decision when choosing its hardware.

We use 16Gb M2 Pro to run docker instances running a copy of our infrastructure (ELK, CH, MariaDB, some maintenance batches, video encoding etc) with zero issue.

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[-] nick@campfyre.nickwebster.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Docker uses a feature of the Linux kernel called kernel namespacing, so on macOS (and windows too iirc) it spins up a Linux VM which runs your Docker containers.

[-] kaseijin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

2009, 2015, M1 MacBook Pros. All solid laptops that gave me years of productivity. Touchpad, screen, and form factor are all extremely important for me; I work 75% of the time on the couch with the laptop on my lap (on a laptop pillow of sorts), and having a quiet and cool M1 has been great.

I don't need my esoteric linux setup on my laptop. I've had to use a Windows laptop for work for two years, and I did not enjoy the random lockups, file explorer crashing, driver notifications and malfunctions, windows filesystem, managed spyware by both microsoft and my company slowing things down considerably... and this was a more expensive engineering grade workstation laptop. If I could trim the fat and make it as stable and bloatfree as my gaming PC, it probably would have been a better experience.

[-] gzrrt@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

MacOS window management is unfortunately a total mess. To the point that I still feel more productive on a dirt-cheap linux laptop, vs. my expensive work-isssued M1 machine with great hardware

[-] GrayBoltWolf@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Rectangle is the only way I find MacOS to be useful when it comes to window management.

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[-] instamat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And not to forget the little Finder function that allows you to create a new folder with all of the items you've selected, which are automatically moved into it.

Oh how I wish windows could or would add this. And hitting the space bar in the Finder to look at a file without opening the requisite app. And just Preview. He’s right, there are tons of little QoL improvements that make macOS feel so superior.

[-] mnrockclimber@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

Spacebar to preview, command-spacebar to launch apps. I'd die without those two things.

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[-] realitista@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

For me, it's mac at home, windows at work. I work mostly in Microsoft Office, and it's just not very good on Mac. Also I prefer the start menu because the way I use it, it has labels so I can see at a glance what document I'm trying to get at. And I can't stand not having tree navigation in finder. Opening two windows to copy something to another folder is super annoying. But for home use with photos and music, I'm quite happy to use mac. The laptops are undoubtedly superior in terms of hardware.

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