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What are your ideas, that if you could implement would likely stop our species from warring so much?

I'm asking for a reasonable ones, but if not - at least make them funny :P

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[-] volodymyr@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Like others said, struggle is in human nature. But it is possible to shift it to other domains: art, science, exploration. To prevent this stuggle spill back into physical violence, there should be broad consensus on basic rules, effectively enforced.

So I'd say, build this consensus, which will probably need to rely on abundant renewable enengy, some form of UBI, equality, and stronger international institutions, but will not spotaneously evolve towards unsupportable preferences of some groups.

[-] Ignacio@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

A death match between the presidents / prime ministers of the rival countries. The country of the winner of that match will win the war, and the country of the loser has to deal with the following consequences.

[-] Machefi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I once asked my dad, wouldn't it be better if wars were determined by rock-paper-scissors? He explained, that even if, the citizens of the losing country would probably get so upset, they would take matters into their own hands and start a riot, which would effectively lead to regular war.

(He explained it better than that, but it was long ago and I only remember the general sense of what he said)

[-] Kerploppus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Then every nation ends up with President Camacho.

[-] Darkonion@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

No hands for anyone. Possibly no feet too. Only the cooperative will survive.

[-] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Establish a global trade network in a way that everyone is completely dependent on everyone else.

[-] Kerploppus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

We did that, it failed.

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[-] pandarisu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's another rule. No wishes containing the word 'all'. Guaranteed ironic consequences.

I don't think anyone's going to miss wars.

Star Wars, Thumb wars, wow, Storage Wars!

[-] GustavoM@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's (theoretically) impossible -- you can't break someone's (ignorant and established) will/ideas/plans with words alone or treats. Most world leaders are megalomaniacs by heart, i.e they won't stop until they are done with what they want.

[-] Reliant1087@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Universal basic income, universal food and shelter and education.

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[-] AshDene@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

A single world spanning country.

If we don't kill ourselves off first it will probably happen eventually. Country sized used to be limited by things like communication latency, and the time it took to move forces around. Technology has shrunk the world so that those things no longer matter. The natural size limit on a country is almost certainly as large as the earth now.

It won't happen soon, cultures will take time to become similar enough to merge. Leadership structures take time to be absorbed into a greater one (EU style) or have to forcefully taken over (Chechnya style, thankfully very rare these days). But with no real impediment to countries growing larger, it will happen eventually. With no-one able to fund or support rebellion and modern technology making police actions extremely effective it may well last effectively forever.

Whether it's a democratic utopia, a dictatorial nightmare, or something in between for the common citizen is not yet defined. Either way, war, as in peer to peer conflict between sovereigns, will be over.

[-] Max_UL@lemmy.pro 1 points 1 year ago

Well, you can still get civil war in that scenario right, or just mass strife and protests which can grow into warlike movements.

[-] JunctionSystem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The only way to permanently end war is universal omnicide.

[-] Today@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Did you watch Shiny Happy People? Apparently Christian fundamentalists believe the world population can fit into Jacksonville, FL. There's the answer. Anyone who wants to start a war has to go live in Jacksonville. Build that wall!

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[-] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

There is no solution to that. It is a cold, hard reality of living on a planet with limited resources. We all might hate war (and for good reason, obviously), but it isn't like animals don't fight for territory either. Just happens that humans found a way to make it a few orders of magnitude more extreme.

[-] Anitabath097@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Economic democracy; if money and resources cause wars then why not let everyone have control? I will probably hear the human nature stuff but being social is just as if not more important than hurting your species/society.

An unfortunate combination of somehow achieving a post-scarcity, non-capitalist society with robust resource and population control.

But people are greedy and want "freedoms" that run counter to this.

[-] Tamhenk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Humans need to evolve to a state where love, compassion and being helpful to others is ingrained. At the moment we're just clever beasts.

Sadly though, I don't think we have enough time.

[-] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Put the ones in charge to the front line.

[-] DefenderOfTheWeak@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The only way to end all wars is for all people to fully control the instinct of domination with rational mind. It's all about education and self-awareness. Making people rational creatures

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[-] _kato@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Make the old men fight each other and soilder just refusing to follow orders that seem stupid

[-] Deliverator@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Easy enough, we just build a jail so big that we can fit the entire world inside of it, boom no more crime.

[-] nafri@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

this is a bit grim but global-wide information control that shreds any information which will help the growth of the idea of overly patriotic but less enough to not kill the domestic culture (but i think, not necessarily always telling the truth). that will also promote the sense of global village and transnationalism. and relocate the idea of war to other rivalries like on sports or something, idk.

basically limit the free will without showing it. I can't think if it's gonna happen or this even possible.

[-] chainsawrobot@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Impossible. You can only deter and mitigate risk. But war is in our nature. War is uniquely human because it requires at least one civilization to wage.

The only way to stop war on Earth is to convince everyone here to go to war somewhere else.

So my plan is to militarize the school systems, manual military or scientific service at 18, create a federated republic under an international parliament, nationalize systems and get away from "profit" in exchange for progress, and go to war with the unknown to find "God" or whatever. Everyone who cant/wont can get UBI and healthcare and education a plenty, create art to their hearts content and do the "culture" thing.

[-] Niello@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

War is uniquely human because it requires at least one civilization to wage.

Except it's not unique because ants also do it.

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[-] JesusTheCarpenter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It would take way more but the first step it would be to remove religions. And not only because most are not peaceful in principle but also because some religions see others as a target. Even small difference in beliefs could spark a vicious and long standing conflic, like Catholics Vs protestants.

[-] encync2@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Put everyone in a time-out until they can play nicely with the other children (because let's face it, a lot of them are acting like children)

[-] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Kill every human, or all but one. As long as there’s at least two people, there will be conflict.

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