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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 120 points 1 year ago

At risk? They are actively experiencing a genocide

[-] fishos@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

I think they mean "at risk of completing full genocide", sadly enough.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"it's not technically a genocide, if it's still in progress"

The world really hasn't paid attention to this particular conflict, until now.

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[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

UN protocols demands being careful when using certain terms when referring to a given event before a proper resolution or investigation has been carried out. If you follow the news, you will notice that they warn about obviously blatant war crimes as "might be a war crime". What's noticeable isn't that they're following their own protocols, but that they're bringing the war crimes to everyone's attention.

[-] Hello_there@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gotta put the ultra orthodox settlers somewhere. Netanyahu thinks it's free land

[-] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago

The Israeli mission to the U.N. in Geneva called the comments "deplorable and deeply concerning" and blamed Hamas for civilian deaths.

(Insert "why would they do this" meme here.)

Hamas is evil, yes, but that doesn't prevent the Israeli government from also being evil.

[-] VirginWith40yo@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Are you supporting terrorism?

[-] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Supporting terrorism by...condemning Hamas and Israel?

Are you drunk? Where did I support anything except not killing civilians?

[-] Gormadt 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A common thing that seems to be going around lately is people claiming that any condemnation of Israel is support for Hamas

Edit: Funnily enough though I see way less of the opposite. It's almost as if those people are poisoning the well for discussion on the matter.

I also see people saying that condemning Israel's actions is antisemitism but I've been seeing less and less of that lately

[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

This parody account isn't funny.

[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago

It's clear and all reasonable people agree, Israel must cease their ethnic cleansing.

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[-] badbytes@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

Risk?!? The Palestinian's have been murdered for 50+ yrs in a genocidal occupation. Silly UN.

[-] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I guess hornet set the bar to hight so the Israeli gov will only stop when the finally kill more then 6 000 000 innocent civilians.

No for real what haunts me is that they are the descendents of those who survived such massacres over the history only to do it themselves when they finally gained power. (They is Israel'gov)

Edit: Hitler not hornet, wtf sorry guys

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[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Risk" of genocide? Risk?

They need to update their fucking AI model.

The burning house is at risk of catching fire. The dead man is at risk of heart failure. This headline is at risk of being full of shit.

[-] Nahdahar@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago
[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The man being shot is currently allegedly bleeding to death.

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[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Does this make UN anti-semitic?

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[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Netanyahu is committing genocide in Gaza in much the same way that Milosovic did in Bosnia.

[-] febra@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago
[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 9 points 1 year ago
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[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

More empty calls for ceasefire with not a single plea for Hamas to so much as release the hostages.

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago
[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, ask once nicely for hostage release, condemn Israel daily for not having a ceasefire.

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[-] filister@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They were active negotiations going before Israel went all out in Gaza, and there were 4 hostages released.

Didn't Netanyahu say that hostages are not their top priority? And by bombing all those tunnels while perfectly well know that all the hostages are kept there is kind of a signal that he cares very little for the wellbeing of his own people.

I think relatives of those held in captivity are already quite discontent and pissed off with your war cabinet, aren't they?

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[-] qnick@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Genuine question to all Palestinian sympathizers: don't you see how you encourage Hamas to bring even more kids to the active war zone with your comments and protests?

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s what your question makes me think of.

[-] fishos@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's more like "hey, that neighborhood full of families and shopkeepers has some gang members in it. Let's bomb it all." Hamas isn't "bringing in kids". They're resistance fighters who live in the same area, which is roughly the size of Los Angeles. And in the minds of Hamas, they're fighting for those children to have a right to that land in their future. To have a right to grow up free and unoppressed. Those children aren't "shields" and they weren't brought there. They were born there and are now being indiscriminately bombed as an excuse to make Hamas look bad. Where's Mossad? Where's Israeli special forces? Israel likes to talk a big game about their abilities, but in this conflict, "rain missiles from the sky and blame the victims for being in the way" seems to be their only tool.

You realize Israel even bombed evacuation routes, right? Told people "it's safe to leave this way" and then bombed the caravans leaving. You can't even leave without getting bombed, and you think they're just importing children in?

What are you smoking? I want some.

[-] qnick@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

In this video by channel 4, they briefly mentioned the story of a wounded boy, who got the permission to get through the Rafah crossing. His Palestinian father didn't let him go, because the father himself didn't get such permission. This is how they care about their children.

[-] medgremlin@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago

If the child did go through alone, what are the chances that family would ever see him again? Who would care for the child and advocate for his best interests away from his family? All communications have been shut down by Israel. There is no way for the family to know what happens to their children if they are taken away.

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[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You must feel very good about yourself blaming civilians for being murdered by Israelis.

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[-] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 year ago

Are you suggesting that

  • that Hamas is importing kids from outside of Gaza into Gaza, or
  • There's parts of Gaza that aren't an active war zone that Gazan children can be brought from ?
[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

No, that's your imagination at work. What they're saying is that Hamas makes sure there are at least 10 children in close vicinity to and leadership to use as shields.

[-] badbytes@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Genuine question, do you have access to multiple sources of news and the internet. Active war?!? You don't seem to know much about the conflict and the root cause do you?

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[-] Machinist3359@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Don't you see how your knee jerk defense of anything Israel does as encouraging them to do war crimes?

I swear, you lot would defend nukes if there was a 50/50 shot of getting a child of a hamas member.

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[-] calavera@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Can we start calling Israel a NAZI state?

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hold up their speedy. They’re not there yet. It took the Nazis over 5 years to get to that connotation. Let the Israelis cook. /s

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[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 8 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


GENEVA, Nov 2 (Reuters) - United Nations experts called on Thursday for a humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza, saying time was running out for Palestinian people there who find themselves at "grave risk of genocide".

Nearly four weeks of Israeli bombardment against the Gaza Strip in retaliation for deadly attacks by Hamas gunmen in southern Israel on Oct. 7 have killed more than 9,000 people, made up of a majority of women and children, health authorities in the Hamas-run enclave say.

"We remain convinced that the Palestinian people are at grave risk of genocide," the group of experts, made up of seven U.N. special rapporteurs, said in a statement.

Speaking to Reuters after the experts' statement was issued, one of its signatories said the people of Gaza had been deprived of the "the most basic elements for living."

"We are using the term risk of genocide because the process that is (underway) is absolutely indiscriminate, affecting, in this case, more than 2 million people," said Pedro Arrojo Agudo, Special Rapporteur on the human rights to safe drinking water and sanitation.

"The situation in Gaza has reached a catastrophic tipping point," the U.N. experts said, adding that Gazans had been left with scarce water, medicine, fuel and essential supplies while facing health hazards.


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[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

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[-] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

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[-] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What even is the purpose of a ceasefire? I don't even understand why the occupation government is against it, they could use it to their advantage. Agree to a ceasefire, give some time for people to desperately try to escape Gaza, allow some aid to the people remaining there, and when it's all over and people stop seeing you as the monsters you are, then you can continue your "war" and less people will care.

Afraid Hamas might use that time and aid? Well don't worry, your army is already getting wrecked on the ground, but it doesn't matter to you; you can continue wasting equipment, men, and oxygen for as long as you like, while Hamas cannot. Your army will take control of the area, and either get rid of everyone there or get kicked out a second time, either way, you have achieved your actual goals.

[-] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

escape where though? Egypt isnt going to let them in - Egypt has a lot of economic issues right now, they cant handle a bunch of refugees. maybe they could take a boat to Lebanon, Syria, or Turkey - Syria and Turkey are still struggling with the aftermath of that massive earthquake & are unlikely to be welcoming. Lebanon could accept them but there's not a lot going on there. where else then? Jordan maybe?

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