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[-] gaybear@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Not me installing a css snippet in Obsidian to solve this exact problem.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You can make your own with css if you want. I noticed this guy can write a whole blog post about it but he didn't bother to do that on his own site lol.

[-] atetulo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

How disconnected from reality are you where writing your own with css is the appropriate solution?

Have you talked to a normal person recently?

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I thought I was in a technology forum opps. I'll explain. Sorry.

My comment didn't mean for everyone to write their own css. I mean the site owner or product designer making these systems needs to add them with css. Because it's their responsibility.

The browser bars are meant to fade away so they don't conflict with the design of the site or app you use. The creators on those apps need to make bigger bars if their users need that.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'm a software engineer who does this for a living so I guess pretty disconnected

[-] atetulo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Yep. It's called 'tunnel vision' and 'projection.'

You need to understand that most people are not software engineers and solutions that seem appropriate for you may not be appropriate for them.

Try to think of a time when you weren't so far down the computing rabbit hole and understand most people aren't. You need to appeal to them if you want to design something well.

If you're only appealing to software engineers and it's not an application specific to software engineering, then you're designing your product poorly.

Your comment just supports my assertion that users are expected to lower their standards to make developers' jobs easier. It's a backwards way of thinking, but this generation doesn't really seem to understand what's going on around them.

They're routinely proud to lower their standards so others can have it easier.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah but you should also understand that if design minded people really care about this they can make a difference. It's not up to chrome and firefox it's fully in the control of the designers who make the products you use. And the trend is to not have huge bars. My comment was more addressed to those people as I know there are a lot of them who frequent this site. Like myself.

And from my point of view it's better for the browser to remain as design neutral as possible to allow creators more flexibility. There are a lot of use cases where huge scroll bars caused a all kinds of issues in the past. What we have now is a result of years of people arguing about this stuff.

[-] nameisnotimportant@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Wait, you guys don't use your mouse wheel or keyboard to scroll?

[-] atetulo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, why click or tap once in one spot when you can swipe 10 times.

I think the 'gestures' crowd needs to go pound sand.

Either implement it as a setting, or don't force people to use it.

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[-] nycki@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Does anyone know what text editor that is in the screenshot? Looks like vscode but less bloaty? I'm interested.

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[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Eh, scrollbars are one of my least favourite UX design choices, though I respect that some people like them and do think that they should be a reasonable size for those who do want them.

There are so many better ways to navigate vertically scaling content now (not least of which, mousewheels). I think they served a good purpose in the early days of document editors and web browsers, but they're a bit of an easy out for poorly laid out content.

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