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submitted 1 year ago by balderdash9@lemmy.zip to c/memes@lemmy.ml

Context (for those who don't know): Israel and Palestine

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[-] Haus@kbin.social 215 points 1 year ago

It worked so well when they did the same thing for themselves and Ireland.

[-] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 144 points 1 year ago

Also that whole India/Pakistan thing. And I seem to remember some stuff happening in Africa.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 87 points 1 year ago

The secret ingredient is running the fuck away before either of them notice.

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

And the Soviets did the same with Armenia and Azerbaijan.

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[-] dreadgoat@kbin.social 65 points 1 year ago

It always works out fine for them. I don't know why anybody says imperialism or colonialism are bad or destructive, seems to me that Britain and France and Spain and Portugal and the Dutch are all doing fine. Really weird how maps of their empires seem to overlap a lot with parts of the world that currently or recently experienced a lot of, idk let's call it "troubles?" They must be dumb or smth

[-] YourFavouriteNPC@feddit.de 33 points 1 year ago

Well, since those former colonies can't quite work it out on their own, maybe they should just be brought back into their respective empires again? 🤔

[-] Decoy321@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They even had a nice little name for it, The ~~Troubles~~ Fun Times!

“Spicy diplomacy”

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[-] erranto@lemmy.world 116 points 1 year ago

Britain has planted the seeds of hatred and bloodshed in the middle east and is now acting as if it has no responsibility towards resolving the conflict.

It is hard to watch the British media coverage of this war acting all outraged and surprised by the violence while being proud of their historical imperial inheritance .

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Britain is laughably impotent today.

[-] erranto@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Britain is still one the Hydra's snake heads in World politics even today

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago

Nice try Boris.

[-] Rubanski@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago

Britain and France are responsible for such an enormous fuck up in Asia, Africa and the middle east, past and present, it's probably impossible to put it in numbers. The US gets bashed a lot (deservedly), but I think those two were planting something way more devastating for generations to come

[-] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 93 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One group was actually living there and the other group moved in and literally ripped people from their homes.

[-] roboticide@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

That's been happening for the last 5,000 years in that region though, since the Canaanites.

It's not like the Palestinians were the first there.

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[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 91 points 1 year ago

Someone's parents never taught them to share.

Obligatory fuck religion.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

Palestine is not a religious entity, and have been in favor of religious coexistence since the very beginning. It is the Zionist state that is exclusive of other religions by design.

[-] Chr0nos1@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

All the yelling of "Allahu akbar" while celebrating the death and destruction in Israel, would seem to be in conflict with your statement.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

yelling of "Allahu akbar"

Saying "God is great" is problematic?

celebrating the death and destruction in Israel

They are resisting against the Zionist state founded on genocide and exclusivism. I don't see that violating their will for coexistance.

[-] Chr0nos1@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

When they're celebrating the killing of civilians at a dance party, or the beheading of babies, it is a problem. Religion is the cancer that keeps that entire region either at war, or the brink of war

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago

You're gonna have to substantiate that claim. Show me evidence of Palestinians celebrating "killing of civilians at a dance party, or the beheading of babies". Without evidence, your claim is to be ignored.

By the way, Israel has already admitted that they faked the "beheading of babies" story. Verify your evidence before responding.

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[-] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 year ago

Saying “God is great” is problematic?

Obviously

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[-] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 56 points 1 year ago

Also Britain: Oh good, the UN voted in favor of splitting up the land except the entire Arab League voting against the plan? Ok, sounds good, bye guys, have fun!

[-] Neato@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago

It's like an HOA: The council is deciding how to divide up your backyard between your neighbors. The lawn owner is the only dissenting vote and then the neighborhood wonders why they are being so hostile.

[-] Bipta@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Except in this case it costs you not just your backyard but basically your entire life.

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[-] Selmafudd@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

It's working as intended, the whole Ottoman Empire was split to create manufactured internal conflict.

[-] jarfil@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 year ago

Alternate caption: "Zionists smuggling in settlers before the British mandate ended to have enough votes to create a State of Israel as a safe haven for Holocaust refugees, then getting populated mostly by Jews fleeing Arab countries out of fear of retaliation for having created the State of Israel a day early and having pushed most Palestinians out by force"

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago

You realize that most Israelis came from Europe after WW2?

or do you think Liebermann, Herzog, Weitzmann, Goldberg, Weinstein etc. are Arabic names?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelis 33 % are ethnic Europeans as opposed to 12% from asia and 15% from Africa

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Interesting info and I'm not arguing against your point, but that source doesn't address their point at all. The cited source covers recent demographics. The previous user is referring to events that occurred in 1947ish. The time periods are not close enough to be relevant to each other, especially considering the massive changes that occurred throughout that period in the area.

That's kind of like if someone said that the Caribbean was entirely populated by natives when the Europeans showed up in 1492, and someone responded with demographics from the 1570s after the Spanish had established settlements in Cuba, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, Trinidad, and conquered the Aztecs to dismiss the initial point. The demographics are going to be vastly different. It kind of sheds doubt onto your rebuttal since there seems to be a logical disconnect.

Does anyone have any sources on the demographics right before the British invited Jewish people to move to the Levant?

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[-] Franzia 28 points 1 year ago
[-] MissJinx@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

~~Borders are~~ violence.

Religion is violence

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago
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[-] Haagel@lemmings.world 24 points 1 year ago

Lol at all of the wannabe thirteen year old edgleords on lemmy who are so confident that they understand this extremely complicated and protracted conflict such that they can reduce it to a single generic cause but can't even be bothered to look up which of the two world wars is the correct one to reference for their edgy meme.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 19 points 1 year ago

Yeah sure. There is absolutely no pattern of former colonizers creating structures that lead to tensions and violence as they leave. Destabilizing entire regions would never be in the interest of receding former global powers or in the interest of current global powers. They all want all the humans in the world to love each other and live in peace and harmony.

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[-] ytg@feddit.ch 18 points 1 year ago

This war really makes you hate Britain (and possibly France) for causing unrest in the first place

[-] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah it was a land of peace with no unrest until the British came.

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[-] ChiefSinner@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Palestinians also contain Christians. Its just the modern term for gentiles in Israel now.

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