Okay "Bibi"? Where are they supposed to go? Are you going to let Palestinian civilians enter Israeli territory? Is the border crossing with Egypt open? Will Egypt let them in? Or do you just want to say this so the thousands of dead civilians get blamed for not leaving?
If people actually cared about the Palestinian civilians, they would have been encouraging them to make peace.
Instead, for decades people have been cheering on their terrorism as if their indiscriminate killing of Jews was justified.
FWIW I agree that the Palestinians haven't been trying for peace, but at the same time, Israel hasn't really been serious about keeping the peace either. The whole thing is a mess and each side can go on listing grievances and doling out recriminations, but more violence solves nothing.
Historically, violence has solved a lot of things. Notably the civil war and WWII, which ended slavery and Nazis, respectively.
And Israel kicking their aggressive neighbors' asses as solved the problem of them worrying about their existence.
And violence against terrorists has greatly reduced their ability to hurt Israel in the long run.
I'd argue that history has shown that violence has been working out pretty well for the Israelis.
Now, the Palestinians on the other hand... They never take out military targets, only civilians, which does nothing to weaken Israel, and only strengthen's Israel's resolve.
I think it's clear that the Palestinians are the ones who need to take a note from Martin Luther King or Gandhi about the benefits of passive resistance.
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They've been pushed to evacuate to shelters further south from Gaza, which is kind of the only option aside from Egypt opening up. Given that this is all caused by Palestinian terrorists entering Israel, I don't think anyone can blame them for not opening up their border to let more in
And obviously there's plenty of innocent civilians who could be admitted no problem, but Hamas is still the governing party with majority support and would undeniably use that as an opportunity to sneak more militants in
Bro you know they told a bunch of people to shelter in the city center and then bombed the city center right? There's at least a dozen reports of similar that very definitely seen credible.
From all the nations in the world one would expect that Jews should have learned that being an oppressor is not a recipe for peace.
At the end of the day all comes to politics and media propaganda on both sides. Both sides think they are morally right, but the truth is that neither is and that in most cases innocent civilians are suffering the most as a result. Really sad!
Israel has never had a choice.
Palestinians have NEVER agreed to any peace deal that wouldn't fully destroy the state of Israel.
So they can/could leave Gaza? People often say they can not just leave Gaza due to checkpoints and what not?
Netanyahu is saying that for show. It gives the Israeli government a blanket justification to ignore any collateral damage caused in this conflict because they will just claim that they warned them to leave.
Does anybody really believe that the insanely sophisticated security apparatus of Mossad didn't know these attacks were coming in advance? This has the same stink of the Bush administration ignoring repeated warnings of attacks by Al Qaeda pre-9/11 to justify war in the middle east all over again.
There's going to be some warcrimes coming. I'm not looking forward to this, nor am I looking forward to the increase of Nazis and Communists using this as justification to tar all Jewish people as evil.
My thoughts exactly. The reality of sectarian violence (whether it be ethnic or religious in nature) is the justification of more atrocities. Hurt people hurt people, and the historically oppressed can sometimes find themselves becoming the most effective oppressors. It's all bad, it's all sad, and it's all a reflection on the failures of humanity in extending the saber far more often than the olive branch...
Coming? My guy there are already decapitations, slaughtering civilians in their homes, the music festival massacre, POW executions, rape, idk if it's specifically a war crime, but the whole kidnapped Jewish children in cages.
This is standard policy for Israel, the same entity that pretends giving people a 'warning' before blowing up their home is a good enough excuse.
We need to get the hard proof out there so we can discredit Bibi and destroy the Israeli far right altogether. It's the only road to lasting peace
The only road to lasting peace is for Palestinians to agree to a peace deal that doesn't call for the dismantling of Israel.
They won't. They choose terrorism every single time.
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I despise the government of Israel, and everyone who supports it, but killing civilians is not acceptable. I don't care about dead military personnel, soldiers are a legitimate target, but civilians? Th fuck, Hamas, THE FUCK.
This is what Hamas is, what they believe, what they do. They're religious extremists who want genocide, and the only thing that's stopping them is their physical inability to make it happen.
Tbf it is also what israel is doing in retaliation. Both sides are absolutely terrible
They're going to eliminate the threat. Which is going to mean hundreds or thousands of deaths. But Hamas knew that. They hide behind civilians to try to make Israel kill them, so they can get more recruits. It's an intentional strategy. I'm not really interested in people both sidesing this. It's a dishonest tactic intended to excuse the actions of monsters.
I have many criticisms of Israel, but they do not wish a genocide. Hamas does. There is no both sides. Hamas must be eradicated, and if the Palestinians won't do it, Israel will, and the Palestinians in Gaza will have no one to blame but themselves for all the pain that process will involve.
In the same breath you're expecting Israel to cause thousands of civilian deaths you talk about how it's wrong to excuse the actions of monsters. At best we can hope the "kills thousands of civilians" is bundled up in your tidy "I have criticisms".
Hamas is ultimately causing those deaths by forcing the war and then hiding among civilians. It's unfortunate that Israel doesn't have magic powers and cannot eliminate these monsters without civilian casualties, but the only way for the Palestinians in Gaza to be free from threats caused by Hamas is to kick Hamas out.
Shit sucks, I get it, but life is a bitch and if you support terrorists you can't be surprised if the people they attack don't just bend over and take it up the ass.
Shit sucks, I get it, but life is a bitch and if you support terrorists you can’t be surprised if the people they attack don’t just bend over and take it up the ass.
The exact same words could be applied to Israel.
Nah. They don't support genocidal terrorists. If Israel wanted a genocide against Palestinians, it would happen.
They're engaged in terror and are actively engaged in ethnic cleansing. That it's a slow grind rather than a fast act that would shock the world doesn't change what it is.
In a country with mandatory military service, I disagree that soldiers are a legitimate target as a blanket statement. As the rich and powerful wage wars, it's the poor and those with limited options who die.
With the acknowledgement that the current attacks are mostly along the Gaza border, where do the West Bank settlers fall in that dichotomy? Because they're not just passive citizens of an oppressive nation, they're very much a participant in the oppression. And on the other side, military service in Israel is compulsory. There are soldiers who didn't want to be soldiers and think occupying the West Bank is wrong that are in that set of legitimate targets. Maybe it just sucks to be them and they should have tried harder to pursue a non-military service option, but it's not an easy sort where uniform = agent of oppression and civilian = neutral third party.
Whose soil? The soil that was handed to the Zionists by the British? Or the soil that the Zionists violently forced people off of to form a country on stolen land?
whenever someone uses the term 'zionist', you already know they don't have a clue what they are talking about
Ah yes, Jordan, Egypt, and Syria have no blame for this situation. It’s not like there was a major international body that attempted to create borders and one side agreed to and the other side attempted to exterminate the other in a belief they could win a war, then attempted again a few decades
A party that should be holding the major bag is the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Hamas is a major wing of their organization and yet, they keep the border closed. They could set up a major airport in Rafah and open trade routes into Gaza. Israel would have no say, but they don’t.
The Muslim Brotherhood doesn't hold power in Egypt, a military dictator does. Egypt cooperates with Israel on most security matters concerning Gaza, and events of the past few days have shown why. They don't want extremists running around their country either.
The soil of the sovereign state of israel.
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