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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

AI slop yet again!

[-] dan@upvote.au 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I self-host my emails, but use an SMTP relay for sending. IMO, the interesting part of self hosting email is the storage. Outbound sending is more complex and there's not as much benefit to self-hosting it.

I use Mailcow and have it configured to use a relay per domain. Email clients use the Mailcow server as their SMTP server, and Mailcow (well, Postfix) handles sending it to the appropriate relay.

[-] twiked@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

What SMTP relay are you using ? I'm considering switching to Migadu but open to other options.

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[-] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

I have Stalwart installed and use an SMTP relay too. I can send and receive email just fine, never had an issue with that. The only thing that doesn't really work is the account setup (when you add your account to an email client). It doesn't detect the settings, so I have to add them manually and I have to ignore the certificate warning but maybe I'll get around to fixing it someday.

[-] dan@upvote.au 1 points 1 day ago

It doesn't detect the settings

Autodiscovery needs DNS SRV entries to be added for each domain. The legacy Exchange- and Outlook-specific way was a file at /autodiscover/autodiscover.xml but I don't know if email clients still use that.

I have to ignore the certificate warning

I'm not familiar with Stalwart but you should be able to use Let's Encrypt certificates.

[-] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

I've actually been having a great time with simple-nixos-mailserver.

Running with a dedicated ipv4 at a highly reputable hoster, to my knowledge, I haven't landed in a spam folder yet!

[-] gkaklas@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

https://lemmy.zip/comment/19712446

Reminder of this:

https://poolp.org/posts/2019-08-30/you-should-not-run-your-mail-server-because-mail-is-hard/

And that mailu.io (and other similar projects) makes self-hosting email almost trivial 😁 (at least for people that can run a pre-configured docker-compose.yml and buy their domain etc)

[-] Zanathos@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Mailcow internal on Debian VM.

SMTP2Go free external relay.

Have had the occasional issue after an upgrade or reboot can't find my LetsEncrypt cert and will bork the system until I manually fix it. Perhaps my latest script update finally resolved that.

Otherwise, not that bad. Been running my own email for about 5 years or so. I don't sign up for many outside services with it. It's mainly for internal alerting or testing purposes but still works very well.

[-] Godort@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

How do you handle backups?

The other side of email is that it has become the default identity provider for the Internet. If that VM becomes unrecoverable somehow, how would you get access to your past emails?

[-] Zanathos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I was using Veeam when my stack was on VMware, but after moving to Proxmox I've been unable to get the Veeam agent working properly for VM recovery.

I tried Proxmox Backup at one point, and while it did work for base VM backup, the interface and capabilities of it just don't stack up to Veeam in my opinion, and I'm more concerned about file backup than VM recovery as I can easily recreate anything in my stack through my documentation.

I'm actually glad you mentioned that because I do need to revisit it. The few times I did have to recover the VM from backup I was able to do so when my backup process was working, but I've thankfully not had any recovery situations in the past 2 or so years since moving to Proxmox. And recovery doesn't help in situations where your cert is expired which is usually my issue historically.

As for past email recovery, Mailcow does have documentation on recovering from a failed server\database, but I consider my personal deployment volatile since I'm only using it for alerting and mostly internal only services.

I would fully switch over to it if I had more personal time, and if I knew I could make my family comfortable with accessing it. But right now I feel the risk is too great to move anything personally or financially important over. In the event something bad were to happen to me, I'm the only one with knowledge on how to recover the environment and I don't need my family to take on that burden if I were to become incapacitated or forbid, pass away suddenly.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago
[-] Triumph@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

Let me know if you need on prem Exchange. I got you covered.

[-] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 1 points 2 days ago

Tis y I onl rec. SimpleX or Cwtç: instant addr gen, & disposable acc.s.

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