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Swiss voters on Sunday decisively rejected a call to require women to do national service in the military, civil protection teams or other forms, as all men must do already.

Official results. with counting still ongoing in some areas after a referendum, showed that more than half of Switzerland’s cantons, or states, had rejected the “citizen service initiative” by wide margins. That meant it was defeated, because proposals need a majority of both voters and cantons to pass.

Voters also heavily rejected a separate proposal to impose a new national tax on individual donations or inheritances of more than 50 million francs ($62 million), with the revenues to be used to fight the impact of climate change and help Switzerland meet its ambitions to have net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.

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[-] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

I thought everyone had to serve. Sad.

[-] LegoBrickOnFire@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

What is not well enough reprensented in this post is that the Service Citoyen was not only about makimg women do a mandatory service. It was to transform the outdated and regressive mandatory service for men into a more general service to the collective that treated security not as a entirely militaristic issue but as a wholistic one.

Now parliament will interpret this as a mandate to cull the existing useful civil service and force every men (and potentially women too) into the military.

[-] SereneSadie@quokk.au 11 points 2 days ago

Nazi collaborators continuing to be backwards idiots. What a surprise.

[-] Ibisalt@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

you are a massive ignorant idiot. there is so much more to this story than just that.

[-] maplesaga@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

The term Nazi is slung around so loosely now I have become desensitized. Did the guy once post a meme about defunding some government program or did he try to burn down a Jewish synagogue, both will be labeled Nazi in 2025.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I have become desensitized

Weird that hearing about fascism has left you incapable of identifying fascists. I never see your type have this problem with Muslims, Feminists, or Tankies.

[-] maplesaga@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Alright well I don't deal in cosplay, sorry.

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[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

As an American, I have no room at all to judge this decision. But

proposals need a majority of both voters and cantons to pass.

That sounds amazing. Let's do that, please.

I mean, straight popular vote would probably be better. But this could really do what the Electoral College stans say that it was made to do, without doing what it actually does.

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[-] Leomas@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

The takes on here are wild as a Swiss dude.

[-] Leomas@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Hint: Mandatory service is a problem.

[-] remon@ani.social 2 points 1 day ago

That's a wild take ....

[-] Fredthefishlord 6 points 2 days ago

Mandatory service is not a problem. As long as we live in a world with countries like russia mandatory service does more good than harm.

[-] Leomas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Mandatory service causes two main issues (for me): Bad, undisciplined armies and authoritization of the population.

[-] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It is. Get with the times it's the 21st century. Modern men are equipped with better social tools and technologies to be able to tackle any problems that come their way without resorting to savagery that is violence. There's diplomacy, economic sanctions as well as international agreements to get Russia to stop what they are doing with a strongly worded letter. The sword may seems sharp, but nay the pen is mightier than the sword. Yet, it is men's fragile ego that prevents them from searching alternative solutions other than wanton violence. Oh Vritra, if we could eliminate all the men if the world, the world would a lot more peaceful, as the remaining people eat their crumpets and sips on their tea.

If Russians invade your country they'll have guns, not pens, and you'll need a plan to deal with them when they don't feel like negotiating.

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[-] jazzkoalapaws@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 days ago

Bunch of morons.

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