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British plugs (suppo.fi)

People who joke about legos haven't stepped on this bad boy

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[-] Devial@discuss.online 129 points 1 week ago

Best plug+receptor design in the world for electrical safety.

Worst plug design in the world for bottom of foot safety.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Sounds like the problem is people leaving plugs lying on the ground? Otherwise known as user error.

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[-] nocturne@slrpnk.net 44 points 1 week ago

I see you have never encountered a goat head.

[-] insomniac199@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Oh look that's something ninjas spread on the road when they run.

You just brought back memories of my siblings and I walking around outside barefoot to the point these things penetrated our shoes more easily than our feet.

In rural southern Utah these things are literally everywhere. If you go out with cheap foam flip-flops, the entire bottom of the shoe will embedded with dozens of these seconds after you start walking around lol

Kind of oddly satisfying to pull them out of the soles of shoes tbf

[-] SolSerkonos@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago

I've always heard them called sand spurs, and they're the devil. Nothing in nature needs to be that sharp, ffs.

At least chestnuts have the decency to be really localized and large, despite being spikey balls of evil. These little fuckers are miniature, everywhere, and can hide in carpet for a solid six months before you notice them the one time you decide to go barefoot.

I'm so glad we don't have these where I live.

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[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago

UK sockets usually have switches on them. There's no need to unplug things when you're not using them.

Also, Lego is a collective noun. Saying legos is exactly like saying sheeps.

[-] Devial@discuss.online 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

There's also no real reason to unplug something, even if the plug isn't switched. Modern electrical appliances have idle power draws of less than a watt.

Rule of thumb: If a small electronic appliance (e.g. phone charger, power brick etc...) isn't warm to the touch, it's using less than 1 Watt of power, which at UK electric prices, is less than half a penny per 24 hours.

If you value your own time at UK minimum wage, and it takes you 5 seconds to unplug, and 5 seconds to replug, you won't break even unless you keep it unplugged for at least 7 days. So maybe worth it if you're going on holiday. As an everyday thing, unplugging idle electronics to save power is a complete waste of time.

As for electrical safety, generally speaking if something is unsafe whilst plugged in but switched off, it's typically not legal to sell in countries with properly enforced standards anyway. And with whole house RCD protection being relatively universal in western europe, even if something were to go wrong, chances are the RCD, or AFCI if the breaker panel is real fancy, will stop the bad thing happening real quick.

Oh and quick PSA: Regardless of it's whole house protection, or individual socket protection, you should test the function of your RCDs every now and again. Officially at least once a month. Every RCD breaker has a little button somewhere labeled "test", that connects L to GND across a resistor, to check if the breaker actually does it's job. If you've never done this (and haven't recently had the RCD trip for an actual fault) GO DO IT NOW. THOSE THINGS ARE LITERALLY LIFE SAVERS AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ACTUALLY WORKING.

[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Oh and quick PSA: Regardless of it’s whole house protection, or individual socket protection, you should test the function of your RCDs every now and again. Officially at least once a month. Every RCD breaker has a little button somewhere labeled “test”, that connects L to GND across a resistor, to check if the breaker actually does it’s job. If you’ve never done this (and haven’t recently had the RCD trip for an actual fault) GO DO IT NOW. THOSE THINGS ARE LITERALLY LIFE SAVERS AND IT’S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THEY’RE ACTUALLY WORKING.

Such good advice.

[-] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Boy I bet youre fun at parties

[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

The ladies flock to me for my witty pedantic corrections.

[-] devedeset@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

I think the switches are nice but in the modern world you really don't need to unplug a vast majority of things. Even my $30 120V USA space heater shuts itself off if it tips over or gets too hot. My cell phone charger pulls functionally 0W while idling.

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[-] Ulvain@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago

What a weird sex toy, what shapes are British anuses?!

[-] tazeycrazy@feddit.uk 13 points 1 week ago

I would be mildly annoyed at 110v in easy reach with metal with out an isolation switch.

[-] Devial@discuss.online 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Having switched outlets wouldn't make US plugs any safer, at least not in any meaningful way.

The individual switches on UK outlets don't really add significantly to safety, they're mostly just a convenience feature, because for an electrical plug/outlet to even be considered safe in the first place, it has to be always safe, whether it's powered or not. You can't rely on people switching off unused outlets instead of doing actual safety design.

The main factors that make US plugs less safe than UK ones is the potential for exposed metal contacts with a closed connection to the outlet, the lack of internal fuse and the lack of polarisation, and, particularly in combination with the first point, the comparatively weak grip strength and protruding design that make it easy for a plug to become (partially) unplugged by accident.

[-] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago

One feature of UK plugs I really like is the built in warding of the live/neutral slots. The ground prong is longer to allow for the mechanism to unlock the hot slot when inserted. It's essentially a built in childproofing.

[-] Devial@discuss.online 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Jup, that's a really good feature. You can get aftermarket child shutters for EU style plugs as well, but they require you to twist the plug before inserting, making them kinda inconvenient, and they have to be specifically installed by parents. Though I don't think that's the worst thing in the world. After all, we don't make any of our other products or home designs toddler safe by default. It's generally regarded as the parents responsibility to ensure their home is child proof before they get a child.

But the UK version of just having it in every outlet as a hidden feature that you wouldn't even notice if you don't know it's there is definitely the best approach.

(Though it does make low form factor UK plugs almost impossible, because every plug must have a ground prong, even if there's no actual safety need to have one)

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[-] markz@suppo.fi 8 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I think brits and other europeans can generally agree on american plugs

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago

You clearly haven't stepped on a IC chip

100 pins right in the foot

[-] markz@suppo.fi 6 points 1 week ago

I have, but it was a foot-safe surface mount package

[-] sausager@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Is it normal for there to be no cord attached to these? That would stop them from facing this way on the floor

[-] towerful@programming.dev 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No, the cable comes out perpendicular to the pins (ie parallel to the wall).
Which pretty much guarantees foot-pain orientation

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[-] markz@suppo.fi 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's from a power brick that came with attachments for different regions.

I've handled normal plugs as well and they tend to orient themselves prongs up too.

[-] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I've seen a few videos on these and the benifits of european plug design. My only gripe with it is the size. I know it would be a pain because everything is already built for the the current standard, but an updated "micro" plug would be a lot better.

In fact, why doesn't the whole world collaborate on a new plug design that takes the best from both and combines into a 110/220 auto sensing plug. Sadly i don't see that happening any time soon. It's much more likely that USB-C continues to gain ground and becomes the defacto DC power standard for consumers.

[-] Devial@discuss.online 1 points 6 days ago

a 110/220 auto sensing plug

There's no real need for a plug to be able to sense what voltage it's plugged into. That would be handled device side, not plug side. And for devices for which handling both 110 and 220 makes sense, well those pretty much universally already have a switch mode power supply that does so automatically, or at least a dip switch with which a user can manually select their grid voltage (check your phone or laptop charger, I can virtually guarantee it already supports both).

And the issue with devices that don't already do this, is generally that they are basic resistive or inductive loads (anything along the lines of heaters or motors), with little to nothing in the way of digital control electronics, which need to be designed for a specific input voltage in order to achieve a specific power output. Making these devices both 110V and 220V compatible would require either giving every single one of them a voltage transformer, or to include a 110V motor/heating coil, and a 220V one, that can be switched between. Both of which would massively increase the price of these devices.

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[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago

American here. I may be in the minority, but I think this plug design is absolutely stupid. I get that it has safety features, that you can put a fuse in the plug, that the outlets have switches, etc etc etc. But it is absolutely fucking huge. Ridiculously huge. And anywhere that you have multiple devices you want to plug in, it is totally impractical because it is so fucking huge.

The fact is, very very few devices need 240v 13A. Yes I get that it is useful to have this ridiculous amount of power so you can boil your tea kettle in 35 seconds, but other than that very few household appliances need anywhere near that amount of power.

So the result is a cell phone charger, which at the very outside is pulling 20 or 30 watts, is plugged into this giant ridiculous monstrosity capable of supplying 3000+ watts. And in reality the only appliances that use anywhere near that much are cooking appliances and space heaters.

Meanwhile the US NEMA 5-15 is good for 1800 watts, plenty to run almost every household appliance, with the longer ground pin and an appropriate outlet it supports tamper resistance shutters, the thin flat pins resist the insertion of foreign objects into the outlet, and you can fit many outlets in a small space.
And it doesn't destroy your foot when you step on it, as a nice bonus.

[-] wendigolibre@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

My understanding is that higher voltages mean that amperage can be lower. There are also gains in transformer efficiency.

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[-] SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Two words: Extension cords

Us extension cords (or power strips or whatever you want to call them) practically catch fire if you look at them wrong. Over here, there's much more leeway for plugging multiple loads into a single socket.

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[-] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 7 points 1 week ago

AS/NZS 3112

I can charge my electric car from a standard outlet. Can add 20kWh overnight, which is plenty for 3 days round town driving.

230V at 15A on a standard outlet, plug only slightly larger than the American one.

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