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Incorrect AI-generated answers are forming a feedback loop of misinformation online.

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[-] Brimos@lemmy.world 120 points 1 year ago

Speed running our way to “electrolytes, it’s what plants crave!” I see … if you know, you know.

[-] Dippy@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho did seem more entertaining at least then the circus we’ve had for the last few years. At least we can look forward to that?

Plus Ow! My balls! Does seem like some good tv.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 57 points 1 year ago

He was a great president. Saw a problem, admitted his ignorance to it, and hired the smartest person he could find to fix it.

[-] suodrazah@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Our timeline is far worse.

[-] Cabrio@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

A benevolent idiot is better than a malicious ignorant.

[-] Dippy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

True, but given his cabinet, is 1 out of 6 that great in selecting?

[-] False@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

They can't all be like the attorney general.

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[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

Quora

well, there is the problem

[-] Moc@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Festering pit of misinformation it is. And yes, they’ll ban you for calling it out or correcting the record.

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[-] Neato@kbin.social 55 points 1 year ago

You can melt anything. An egg will burn first. Then you will get some type of rendered carbon ash. Which will, eventually, melt and/or vaporize with enough heat.

[-] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Melting is a physical process that changes the form and aggregation state of a thing, but it still remains that thing. Melted gold is still gold, for example.

Burning on the other hand is a chemical process that leads to new "things". The egg isn't longer an egg.

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[-] snaggen@programming.dev 23 points 1 year ago

Well, for eggs, that are carbon based, you will in fact have problems since carbon doesn't have a liquid state at regular atmospheric pressure. I guess you can add pressure, but is that really what we mean when asking a question if something melt?

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If I simply ask "can eggs melt" and the answer is complicated but still yes, I would hope it to explain the complications and not just say yes. But I mean, if I just wanted a yes or no answer, and it's technically correct, I'm cool with that. I could always follow up with "how" if the simple answer doesn't satisfy me.

[-] snaggen@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, I agree. But what I mean is that when people ask physics questions, it is often implicitly understood to mean under current conditions. You rarely hear normal people or kids (who I find asks most of the physics question) include anything about frictionless vacuums in the question. (For reference: https://xkcd.com/669/ ). So, for the egg question, regular people would most likely consider the answer to be "No, except under very special circumstances". But, I agree with you that if a simple Yes/No answer is expected, it have to be Yes.

[-] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Eggs are primarily comprised of colloidal suspension.

Colloids cannot melt, as they are not in a solid phase

[-] diviledabit@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

But then you're melting carbon ash and not eggs.

[-] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Which raises an interesting question: what if you cooked it in a zero oxygen environment (say argon, nitrogen, or carbon dioxide... basically welding gases because they're mostly inert). I can't burn in that context, so does it melt? Or do you drive off all the volatiles and are just left with carbon anyway?

[-] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you heat carbon based stuff without oxygen a process called pyrolysis happens. It separates the components into their molecules and molecules into smaller molecules with less weight. During this process you can gain different materials.

Not sure what kind of products are possible with the pyrolysis of egg + welding gases though lol

If you heat carbon in a vacuum (via radiation) you can get melted carbon!

If you heat carbon in a vacuum, it sublimates straight to gas. If you heat it under extreme pressure in an inert gas atmosphere, then it can melt. Unfortunately creating such pressures in the lab is only possible with diamond anvil presses, which are themselves carbon and thus tend to sublimate from the heat, resulting in pressure vessel failure. Doing the experiment on the surface of a neutron star would work, but presents some other difficulties.

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

In an inert atmosphere under enough pressure pretty much anything can melt without burning.

[-] BlueBockser@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

An egg is already liquid, so it can't be molten. It's the same way you can't melt water.

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[-] vox@sopuli.xyz 40 points 1 year ago

well it's referencing this article now

[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Somebody needs to write an article about that article that states the opposite

[-] nomecks@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Take frozen egg. Melt. Repeat as needed.

[-] TheYear2525@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Thawing isn’t always melting.

[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Egg shells melt at 825°C. Saved you a click.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago

So it's true, you can melt eggs

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 5 points 1 year ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Tell me Easter eggs aren't eggs, motherfucker! Just go ahead and tell me that!

[-] Cornpop@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Step 2: Add some water and urea

No thanks

[-] rez_doggie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Bear Grylls hates you rn

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 22 points 1 year ago

Doesn't everything technically have a melting point?

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, carbon, among lot's of materials, goes directly into sublimation stage. It has no liquid form.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago
[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 11 points 1 year ago

Ok, oversaw the 'technically'.

[-] Fisk400@feddit.nu 18 points 1 year ago

Yes but we generally don't want AI to answer questions like evil genies.

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[-] Tammo-Korsai@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

Even when Quora isn't being ruined with AI, it's flooded with Neo-Nazis that are self-proclaimed historians.

[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

can't wait till more LLMs and content generators get trained on this garbage data and repeat it all over the internet ad inifinitum.

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Truly the best future.

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 18 points 1 year ago

Had a friend open a conversation line by referencing something on Quora and I immediately tuned out. Quora is a wealth of nonsense.

[-] Robaque@feddit.it 17 points 1 year ago
[-] korok@possumpat.io 15 points 1 year ago

I do sometimes “provide feedback” on terrible featured snippets, but goddamn does it feel like shouting into a void.

[-] diviledabit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Ublacklist Firefox plugin.

Add quota Add pinterest

Make the internet a little less shit

You can find some blacklist subs on GitHub too if you want to blanket filter out a lot of the other shit (like alternative.to and other bulk targeted result sites)

[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

They'll be taking over the world any day now, just you wait

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[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Who knew the Abominable Intelligence is actually really, really dumb.

From my tests LLMs are only good at writing boring work emails, you should pretty much never trust any factual information they generate without verification.

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