Wouldn’t that only apply if there’s lead plumbing inside your house in between the water heater and the tap?
Yes, but there's other metals than can dissolve in hot water, like copper and cadmium
There shouldn't be any cadmium in your plumbing. Copper while actually a nutrient in very very small doses, would only be a problem in severely corroded pipes where cold water isn't helping you.
Any heavy metals will accumulate in your water heater and the hot water could potentially keep it in suspension. I bet it's worse if you have lead pipes.
Nobody in the last century+ has lead freshwater pipes.
That said, some of our underground infrastructure is very old, and those old iron pipes had fittings sealed with lead and oakum.
Water flowing through such pipes have pH and chemicals carefully controlled to avoid that lead corroding or dissolving. The Flint, Michigan disaster was a direct result of not managing water chemistry correctly, but there are hundreds if not thousands of communities at similar risk who are kept safe by water scientists and engineers doing their job correctly.
That said, hot water tanks do accumulate minute quantities of undesirable metals over time, and depending on a wide variety of variables between the water source and your tap it could result in unhealthy levels of things you don't want to consume.
So yeah, don't cook or drink from the hot water tap.
At least here in Germany lead pipes were only forbidden in new houses after 1973. For old houses they should be replaced by January 2026.
That's not totally true. I've personally removed lead pipes from houses that were built in the 1940s to 1960-1961. They stopped that shit sometime in the '50s or very early '60s here in the US, depending on the state. So it would be true that no house built in the last 65-75 years would have lead pipes, any old houses that have been sitting empty for the last few decades may actually still have some lead pipes.
Well damn. Lead restrictions weren't Federal law until 1986. TIL.
https://www.epa.gov/sdwa/use-lead-free-pipes-fittings-fixtures-solder-and-flux-drinking-water
Although some areas added local restrictions starting in the 1920's, industry lobbies kept the things on the market for decades. Ugh.
Yeah this is fear mongering bullshit.
The reason you care about dissolved solids is because of minerals tasting like shit and making your food taste mineraly.
No lead pipes. 70C water temp against legionella. Yearly water quality tests in all public buildings. Drinkable tap water by law in any rental property. Europe <3
Even without lead pipes, if you have an electric water heater, the sacrificial anode rod leaches all sorts of shit. Seriously, just use cool water in a kettle. Mine usually takes less time than my pipes do to warm up when washing dishes.
If you have a high pressure hot water system, then the heater doesn't touch what comes out of the tap. In those you have a closed system from the heating to a tank. That tank contains fresh water, but the heating loop only interacts with it via a heat exchanger.
As I'm not in the industry, what would you estimate the percentage of systems that is?
What if I don't live in America, and my local infrastructure is sanitary?
A new home in the United States does not have lead pipes inside of it. There could be lead pipes outside, but from the water heater to the tap will definitely not be lead.
Some people mentioned hot water heater buildup. But this is supposed to be a new house so there is none. Also it would depend on the style of water heater. As well as the incoming water quality.
Some people also mentioned electric kettles. Those are not as common as you might believe in the United States. Of course it varies but this is not the UK.
Statesian here. I have one kettle in my bedroom one in my kitchen, and one in my office. Tea waits for no man
That's only true in America, where your Health and Safety Standards are shit.
Might be true in parts of Africa and China too, along with other places with a bad standard of human rights.
It's still legal for plumbing parts that contain lead to be used here in Australia.
It was supposed to be banned last year but they extended the dead line twice because the plumbers were crying.
It's now meant to be fully phased out in May 2026.
There may be more lead in your country than you think, even if lead pipes are banned.
Multiple schools here have had lead found in their water. It's crazy.
Growing up in the US I learned this exact thing was why there were two taps in the UK instead of a shared tap. That and Legionnaires growing in the hot tanks.
Yeah that's not been true for about 50 years.
We replaced all our lead, and it's a legal requirement to if you find a lead pipe in a system, replace it no matter what (even in listed buildings) or disable the outputs entirely (the latter is more common in VERY OLD buildings, with people then adding a new system somewhere else, sometimes with exposed pipework rather than having to potentially damage walls.)
We also just don't do hot water tanks any more usually, instead doing on-demand boilers.
Does mean that the hot runs cold for about a minute, but it balances out
The hot runs cold for a minute with a tank too. It takes awhile for it to reach the tap.
Have you ever smelled or descaled the inside of an old hot water tank? Its delightfully putrid and I would never want to drink the stuff coming out of there whether its technically safe or not
This seems....questionable. The entire information given is two sentences. This seems like something an eighth grader wrote for a school project.
'Hot water dissolves lead faster'. Ok, how much faster? I feel like the trip from the water heater to my sink is negligible even if I had lead pipes, which I don't.
If anyone has anything more substantial, please post it.
Chemical engineer here. The difference in temperature between your cold and hot water supplies is what the problem is, and I would imagine this is not a problem at all in modern plumbing systems. Your cold water supply is usually about 50-60 deg F (10-15 C) while your hot water supply us usually set to 140 F (60 C). Solubility of some lead salts in water are given in this table with lead chloride being about 0.8 g/100mL at 10 C and 1.98 g/100mL at 60 C, so about 2.5x more soluble. The rate itself is a more complicated relationship, but it increases rapidly as well. Temperature has a big effect on these things.
When I moved into my house, I ran tests on my tap water, and found that my hot water had higher levels of iron and other metals dissolved in it. This is likely corrosion from the water heater tank. After I replaced the anode rod, the tests came out nearly identical.
All of the levels I found were within the legal limits for human consumption, so it would've been fine... But maybe there are cases where that isn't true. The tests were very cheap, and Home Depot near me offers a 3 test kit (including lead) for free, near the water filter section. It's worth testing to be certain.
Wouldn't all the dishes and utensils be exposed to lead when you use the dishwasher then? Or is it negligible as long as it's not directly ingested?
I think it's negligible compared to ingesting. I think most dishwashers do a final cold rinse, yeah? I could be wrong on that though.
I've never seen a dishwasher with 2 supply lines, they usually only hooked to hot.
Or cold with an internal heater, but still a single supply line.
We need that dishwasher guy to look into all of this.
He did already and that's why we know most dishwashers (in the US) are fed by one line coming from the hot water tap.
The steam that comes out of dishwashers I've used after washing would seem to indicate otherwise. Wouldn't that temperature shock be dangerous to the ceramics?
Did a bit of research and there is a lot of disagreement on whether dishwashers should be connected to hot or cold supply lines. Might depend on the model somewhat.
It mostly depends on where you are in the world and what the wiring is designed for. 220V heating elements are abundantly powerful enough to heat water of any temperature to a useful temperature within the early stages of a wash cycle, and dishwashers with such heating elements are usually designed for cold water, for consistency, because the water in the pipes is always room temperature at first anyway. In places where the dishwasher is built for, and will be connected to 110V electrical supply, they will need the water to be pre-heated (including running the hot tap at the sink where they are plumbed from). If you read the manual, it almost certainly says so.
No matter what voltage they are designed for, they are almost exactly the same in all other respects. You might assume your dishwasher is smart enough to know what temperature the water is and that its magic electronics can run the water long enough or run the heater long enough or do something to make sure it gets to the specified temperature at some point before the cycle is considered done, however in basically all cases it does not, despite all the marketing bullshit trying to tell you how smart they are, they are actually very simple machines and they operate on nothing but very simple, factory-designed timers and cycles in all but the most esoteric designs. They are not smart enough to properly heat the water and almost none of them even have any sensor to detect the temperature or control the heating element in any useful way besides hopefully making sure it doesn't burn your house down. They work because the combination of the heating element and the water supply together are enough to eventually make the water hot enough to wash properly. On 220V it's easier to specify the use of the cold water because that is actually a pretty consistent temperature and the necessary heating times can then be set pretty reliably at the factory. On 110V you have to use hot water, and you have to make sure it's actually hot in the pipes when the machine starts filling. The latter is obviously less desirable, but it's the only way to get a proper wash out of 110V dishwashers. It's a crapshoot, North Americans don't generally know or do this, and the quality of the wash suffers accordingly. But they simply don't make them any other way. Maybe they should change. But they haven't. This is what we're stuck with.
So basically if you have 110V dishwasher you need to hook it up to hot water and make sure the water gets hot before it fills if you expect them to wash properly. That's just the reality of how they're designed. 220V = cold water, 110V = hot water. That's basically universal in the regions where each power standard is used. Unless you take a European/Asian 220V dishwasher and run the 220V wiring to hook it up in North America intentionally, but nobody actually does that, and you're not going to find it was done in your house by surprise.
I can't speak for outside the US, but in the US your dishwasher needs to be hooked up to a hot water line. The detergent won't dissolve properly under 120ºF - 140ºF and they are restricted from using enough energy to get from "cold" to that temperature. Most of the manufacturers will even print in the manual that the water temperature coming in needs to be 120ºF so it can get hot enough to perform all functions.
If you hook up a US residential dishwasher to a cold supply line, you will be hand-washing all of your dishes.
I'm sorry is this some kind of American joke i'm too European to understand?
It's fr and not a joke. If you grow up here, you're usually told. Some aren't aware of it though. We keep giant hot water tanks ready to go.
This is the typical think most people have for old construction. Not sure about new construction. It's usually stuck in a closet or the basement:
I have a hot water recirc system that pumps hot water to the cold tap. Does that explain why I've started turning on my car's hazard lights when it rains?
I have a gas heater, so the water never sits around in some tank so I'm fine. We also do not have lead pipes...
FYI a gas heater can have a tank. I think you are referring to a "tankless" heater. They are nice, but expensive. I had one in my previous house.
Really not even that expensive. I just installed one and it was like $1400, but it gets a fuel efficiency rebate of $600.
Here they are ubiquitous, and yes I have seen commercials for ones with a tank inbuilt, which is just stupid IMO as you have instant hot water on demand.
It's not stupid when you factor the cost. If you want do multiple things at once with hot water, you'll need a bigger tankless. As it gets bigger and can heat more water at once, the price goes way up. Not everyone can afford that.
A tankless can also be electric.
In the early 70s the city I used to live in replaced all their old wooden water lines with concrete/asbestos pipes. They are now digging up the asbestos lines and replacing them with plastic. I do not know what the eventual plumbing will look like once they find out how the plastic is killing them.
Probably start installing wood plumbing.
Pretty sure most pipes don’t have have lead these days but lead the soldering in the joints of the pipes it is still pretty common
Tons of old houses have lead fixtures still, unless they've personally paid a plumber to replace all of the pipes in the building.
I definitely made a few cups of noodles from the summer camp hot tap in my bunk. Whoops.
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