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submitted 2 weeks ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/linux@programming.dev

OC by @phantomwise@lemmy.ml

I've been trying nushell and words fail me. It's like it was made for actual humans to use! 🤯 🤯 🤯

It even repeats the column headers at the end of the table if the output takes more than your screen...

Trying to think of how to do the same thing with awk/grep/sort/whatever is giving me a headache. Actually just thinking about awk is giving me a headache. I think I might be allergic.

I'm really curious, what's your favorite shell? Have you tried other shells than your distro's default one? Are you an awk wizard or do you run away very fast whenever it's mentioned?

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[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Uh, this is dumb. I installed it and did a few things I would do on a normal basis. You're telling me that this is not supported? It's absolutely insane.

[-] Oinks 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Nu's find builtin isn't a GNU find repacement. I think what you actually want is ls piped into where:

ls **/* | where type == file

I do question the choice to alias a well-known program with a builtin that does something entirely different. You can also use ^find to avoid calling the builtin. I would've expected \find (bash-like) or command find (fish-like) to work as well, but alas...

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think that's what I'd actually want, no. I want GNU find functionality for this to be a viable shell replacement. It's... neat, but it's no daily driver.

back to /bin/zsh for me!

[-] chrash0@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

you can absolutely do what you want. GNU find is external and since it conflicts with a builtin can be aliased or referenced like ^find.

the syntax is new for sure, and it’s not for everyone.

been daily driving for over a year

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

I prefer flow to futz. Thanks for the info. Glad it's working for you. I'm staying with what works well for me.

[-] BatmanAoD@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago

You could also just alias find back to ^find. I don't use nushell as my daily driver for other reasons, and I agree with the comment above that it's a bit questionable for them to have a built-in with that name, but I don't understand why you'd even try out a new shell, let alone one that's radically different from POSIX-style shells, much less complain online about the shell you just tried, when you're already happy with the shell you're using and are not willing to adapt any habits or explore the configuration options to match your needs.

[-] dice@programming.dev 6 points 2 weeks ago

I switched from GNU find to fd 2 years ago, unbeknownst to me at the time, this unlocked nu as a daily driver, which I’ve really enjoyed for the past year. I do fire up zsh semi-regularly when needed to escape some hairbrained corners. Scripting in nu is very nice thanks to the data manipulation and closure support. So nice to move from text manipulation to semantic structuring.

[-] cosmicrose 5 points 2 weeks ago

They kinda have to replace some coreutils like find from scratch to be compatible with their philosophy of piping data tables instead of text. It’s super cool and ends up being really powerful but yeah it’s a whole new ecosystem which makes it pretty much impossible to be a drop-in shell replacement.

[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago

You can use both.

[-] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

The commands are object-based instead of text based. The philosophy is built around chaining commands to filter data. I'm pretty sure the nushell command would be ls ./ | where type == file

find in nushell looks like it's more for filtering the output of previous commands, not as a file search.

https://www.nushell.sh/commands/docs/ls.html

https://www.nushell.sh/commands/docs/find.html

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

not my jam, but I appreciate that. I used to do 'find ./ | grep -i string' forever. I've come to prefer the more robust usage of 'find' these days, -type, -iname, etc.

[-] cosmicrose 8 points 2 weeks ago

Nushell is so cool! I’m happy it’s still progressing; I was worried it would die out because it’s such a leap from existing shells that they kinda need to develop an ecosystem from scratch. Piping actual data tables between commands is brilliant. I’ve tried using it as a daily driver but it takes some work to convert existing dot files and scripts. I might try it again.

[-] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

The "sort-by name" didn't work as expected though...

[-] goddard_guryon@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago

Looking at the screenshot, I'd guess it sorted by the ASCII values of the characters, so processes with capitalized names come up first. Still not the ideal sorting, but at least makes some sense.

[-] frezik 6 points 2 weeks ago

Neat. After reading the docs for a bit, it seemed like the sort of shell that would be made by Rust programmers. What do you know, that guess is correct.

[-] f@quokk.au 4 points 2 weeks ago

Remember to subscribe or post in https://programming.dev/c/nushell or other communities on the fediverse!

[-] BetterDev@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago

Like it was made for actual humans to use!

This is othering to the rest of us that just read manuals, understand how the tools work, and like them just fine.

Its fine to like nushell, no hate here, but you don't have to dis what works (and has worked) for almost everyone else for so long.

What about: "wow I am really impressed with the QOL features in nushell!" Instead of "everyone who doesnt like this is not human"?

[-] BatmanAoD@programming.dev 6 points 2 weeks ago

I genuinely can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

[-] HappyFrog 2 points 2 weeks ago

I love nu, but I know it's a lot for people. I can't go back to bash anymore.

[-] Deebster@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago

I've been using nushell for a year and while it is great mostly, and means you don't need to use external tools like jq, the verbosity is tedious at times. I have a lot of aliases set, and I often use the caret escape hatch to run the traditional command if I just want a quick answer.

[-] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

'Cause it was quarter past eleven

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