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[-] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 10 points 1 year ago

The more technology progresses in our ultracapitalist environment (and even some ultrasocialist ones like China), the more people are forced to become Luddite self-sustainable hermits in the middle of nowhere for their own good. It's not even to not buy a car - even something as simple as taking a bus or a train or even a pair of shoes is poised to become a privacy nightmare sooner or later.

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[-] Xianshi@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I'd rather they just focused on making the browser better to be honest. Let the EFF or another org do this type of work

[-] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Mozilla is a large umbrella foundation that includes the for-profit Mozilla Corporation. The Foundation has always done plenty of work outside of the browser. I do agree that their browser development is having a ton of issues (for example, the lack of development of key features needed for the Android browser to be competitive, like a tablet UI and the slow roll-out of add-ons), but I think those are a result of flawed decision-making in the Corporation which happened independently of anything that the Foundation might be up to.

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[-] AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

The frustrating thing is that there's no clear way to know exactly how much you're exposing yourself with this. Even the article (and related links) don't spell it out adequately (IMO).

For example, I just purchased a new(ish) 2022 Nissan. I don't have the Nissan app on my phone and I don't subscribe to any of their connectivity services. Is my data staying in the car or is it finding some conduit back to Nissan? Is connecting my phone to the console for music and maps opening me up to Nissan's data collection? Is using bluetooth for music and hand-free calls exposing my data? Is there any way to know the specific avenues for data collection that present a risk and how can they be mitigated?

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[-] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

It's days like today where I'm glad Infiniti hasn't updated their shit since 2014.

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I assume this can only be collected when connecting your phone plus the app to the vehicle? You lose a lot of functionality if you don’t, but at least it would keep your data private?

[-] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

The phone helps get them more data, but they can gather plenty just from the car and its data connection.

The really fun question is - if you elect not to pay for the data plan for your car, will they still enable it anyways because they can make more money selling your information than it costs to maintain a cell contract for the vehicle?

[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

The car can collect data and it can be downloaded when you go to a repair

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[-] Mr_Buscemi 6 points 1 year ago

Guess I'm happy my Toyota is the last model year that didn't have a connection to the app that's got privacy issues.

Thanks for linking this. Going to share it with some friends.

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