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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world to c/steam@lemmy.ml

This is getting out of hand. The other day I saw the requirements for "Hell is Us" game and it's ridiculous. My RX6600 can't play anything anymore. I've downloaded several PS3 ROMs and now I'm playing old games. So much better than this insanity. This is probably what I'm going to be doing now, play old games.

Edit: I wanted to edit the post for more context and to vent/rant a little.

I don't want to say I made a mistake, but I buy everything used, and I have scored a good deal on two 27" 4k monitors from Facebook marketplace. Got both monitors for $120.

They're $800 on Amazon used. Great monitors and I love 4k. I also bought an RX6600 AMD GPU for $100 from Facebook. It was almost new. The owner upgraded and wanted to get rid of it. My whole build was very cheap compared to what I see some folks get (genuinely happy for those who can afford it. Life is too short. Enjoy it while you can).

I can't afford these high end GPUs, but now very few games work on low settings and I'd get something like 20 FPS max. My friend gave me access to his steam library and I wanted to play Indiana Jones the other day, and it was an "omfg, wtf is this horrible shit" moment.
I'm so sick of this shit!

I don't regret buying any of these, but man it sucks that the games I want to play barely even work.
So, now I'm emulating and it's actually pretty awesome. I've missed out on so many games in my youth so now I'm just going to catch up on what I've missed out on. Everything works in 4k now and I'm getting my full 60FPS and I'm having so much fun.

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[-] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 23 points 6 days ago

Have you tried just setting the resolution to 1920x1080 or are you literally trying to run AAA games at 4K on a card that was targeting 1080p when it was released, 4 and a half years ago?

[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I didn't mention that in the op, but Indiana Jones was running like shit on 1080 low settings. The fucking game forces DLSS. This is where gaming heading, forced DLSS and forced garbage so we are forced to buy expensive shit

[-] Mesophar@pawb.social 2 points 5 days ago

That's just on Indiana Jones and bad optimization. There are still plenty of other, newer games that should run perfectly fine. Of course the big, chunky games that are marketed as "Look at how graphically intense this is! Look at the ray tracing!" are going to run poorly.

Though I will absolutely agree that a lot of studios are throwing optimization out the window when developing new games, just relying on the latest hardware to power through it.

[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Yup, and the new hardware is now skyrocketing in prices. Nvidia and AMD still make 8GB cards and no new game can run on this shit anymore.

[-] Sudomeapizza@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Well yes, Ray Tracing is required. A 6600 XT is a mid rage card several generations ago that has very early generation RT support. Not even the 7000 series does it super well.

Trying to expect anything good from something ray traced with a 6600 xt is a pipe dream. Let alone 4k. Minimum requirements on steam usually are 1080p 30fps (sometimes 720p/30fps WITH upscaling DLSS/FSR)

Yes gpus are expensive, but it doesnt mean you should expect those kinds of titles to run on your hardware.

You havent mentioned what CPU you have, as running 4k also increases that demand a considerable amount, especially with 2x 4k monitors.

If you want a gpu upgrade the Arc battlemage, and soon Arc Celestial GPUs should be affordable. Battlemage is coming down to 300 bucks new rn, so those should be able to handle newer titles better, but from a second hand perspective, DONT expect to be able to play RT required games, let alone, WITHOUT upscaling.

I hate the peices as much as anyone else, but the only option we have is to wait for better second hand cards over time, just stick to Indle/AA games (not AAA or "AAAA"), and possibly run games at 1080p instead of 4k.

Best of luck getting everything running!

[-] lorty@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 days ago

You want to play at 4k on an old low end card. I'm sorry but this one is on you.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago
[-] RockLobstore@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago

Ditto. Whenever it goes on sale for 75% off 🤣

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

With GOTY and all the "expansions"

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[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

This has been me since the dawn of time. I have never bought a game on release date. My son can vouch for me on this one. Whenever he asked for a PS4 game that just came out, my answer is "we need to wait until it becomes $15 - $20 at gamestop and we will get it". I've never bought a PS4 game for more than $20.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I stopped at ps3/Xbox360 gen.

Back then I'd hit GameStop hard on the "buy two get one free" used days.

Uses to buy dozens of titles. Haha.

[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Man, those were the days. I have over 50 CDs for the PS4/PS3 until now.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Ditto. Went as far as printung box art for the generic GameStop covers

[-] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 days ago

There are new games?

In all serious, the indie scene is full of new games that don't require a new GPU to run. A Day of Maintenance and Ephipany City and Mouthwashing and Unsorted Horror and Cosmic Wheel of Sisterhood (to name the few specifically new games that I've played and really loved on my RX580, which is about 40% less powerful).

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[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Idk man, I bought Sol Cesto yesterday, and I'm pretty sure my toaster could run it

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RX 6600, two 4k monitors

Bruh. I have a 3080 Ti and barely feel comfortable running my games in 2k. I'm pretty sure the 6600 was made with only 1080p and lower in mind.

[-] Benaaasaaas@group.lt 1 points 5 days ago

I dunno my 3080Ti runs 4k 90+ FPS no problem. Maybe not all games but most decently modern games.

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[-] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago

Hey man, I agree with you on principle but the fact is that you're trying to run new AAA games with an older card at 4K.

Time marches on, and graphics demands have changed. Newer cards are built differently and games are (albeit poorly) designed to utilize the new hardware.

6600 is a fine card but yeah, you're going to have to compromise somewhere. A lot of good advice here to tap into older games, or you can spend $180 and buy a good 1440p monitor and see if that opens up your options as well.

You're hermit crabbing into used parts on the cheap which is great, but if you're not willing to pay a pound of flesh for a new card then you're going to have to settle for reduced performance - it's that simple. Otherwise what's the point of making better hardware, if nothing takes advantage of it?

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[-] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago

Hell is Us requires a 5600 XT to play (from looking at its minimum requirements on Steam), you have a 6600 so you should be good (obviously not at 4k though).

Also seeing the whole 4k thing, the monitors might not have been a mistake, but they are probably an investment for the future at this point when budget friendly 4k cards are a thing, until then, you'll have to rely on upscaling from lower resolutions (if thats possible with tools built into the game) or just playing in a non-native resolution (1080p) for new games.

[-] randomname@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago

hell is us is an extreme outlier when it comes to performance. and the rx 6600 isn't meant to run games at 4k period. you can probably still play most of the games on steam at 60fps+ on medium settings. high if you play at 1440p instead. yes there is a problem but I think you're over exaggerating a bit, especially considering you are playing at 4k.

[-] SCmSTR 5 points 6 days ago

Remember when oblivion came out? Or crysis? They were so hard to run that they became meme benchmarks lol

And now that "gaming" is incredibly mainstream, the push to be more and more marketable by investors by pushing technology in graphics because that's what sells.

Graphics too hard to run or not, I just want good games. And all this priority on intense graphical fidelity doth not maketh for many resources for the rest of the game and often shows a priority on PROFIT over all else.

Not buying games, for any reason, including you can't play them, is probably the best and healthiest thing to happen to gaming since indie gaming...

So, go, play your 15 year old games. Enjoy what's actually fun. The world will be a better place for it.

[-] menemen@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Go back further back. It is like this ever since gaming on PC is a thing. Doom, Wing commander 3, Quake III, ...

You have to go back to when gaming was dominated by the Amiga and Atari ST to find a time when it hasn't been like this.

I'd say thanks to Indie games, it is actually much easier to have a pleasing gaming life on low specs nowadays.

[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

God damn, I couldn't agree more. It's been a blast playing older games, not gonna lie. I just can't understand why I need to spend $700 plus on a GPU ONLY to be able to play something.

[-] SCmSTR 4 points 6 days ago

Because investors realized that gaming is lucrative and leads society. You think it's a coincidence that Valve created basically the first successful digital distribution platforms and now every entertainment medium followed their model? Do you think microprocessors need to be that good on phones for Web browsing? AI compute hardware came from gaming gpu technology. The software originally made for and tested on games.

But, like music publishers trying to push the newest and latest and greatest music on us, only to have you realize that "oh yeah, 80s music actually kicks ass" and "oh fuck, 50s music WAS neat" or if you have or when you do "holy shit classical is actually amazing and lasted for literally hundreds of years whereas current pop music is constantly only like 2 years old"...

...Like music in that way, old games don't just magically become irrelevant and bad, despite what pop culture may try to tell us. Compatibility may be the biggest issue, but a lot of old games are legitimately better than newer ones (a lot of old games were bad too). It's all the social and technical evolution of the medium, and once you start being able to look at it that way - once that perspective and vibe catches on a bit more - I think gaming will be healthier.

Don't spend 700 bucks. The game will still be there. Wait. Play fun things now that you can, and if when it's economically playable for you it's still fun, then it'll still be fun. There are far too many games right now to even seriously consider fomo for anything but the MOST socially important games, and those are few and far between, and usually very easy to run.

You're doing fine.

Don't look at how much 5090s cost in like Australia or some other countries.

[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Absolutely spot on. It needs a personal change. A change in mentality, the way we think of entertainment, games in this case. We need to stop believing these profit hungry people and stop chasing after those "shadows" and "highlights" and every single detail in games. When you enjoy a game, you won't even notice all those "details". You're not going to be running around in a game looking at trees and sunlight. I guarantee you that it all becomes blur in the background and you won't even care about it. It's all a collective anxiety they've trained us into. Chasing after those fps numbers and details is what got us hooked to their exorbitant prices and shit performance. It was somewhat a wakeup call for me, if you wanna call it that. I just got tired of stressing about my hardware, that's totally fine and capable, not playing their shit and poorly optimized games. Then come those who defend corporations and berate you for "choosing the wrong resolution". Why? I like 4k. It looks nice. Why do I have to bear the burden of their poorly optimized games. They ARE 100% more than capable of optimizing their games to run on 4k ON MY RX6600, but they don't want to. They're lazy. It won't make them enough money. It won't squeeze the last penny out of our pockets. They're also listening to Nvidia. Of course Nvidia wants us to believe that games are "so good" nowadays that we need their top of the line $3000 GPU to play them on 4k. How dare we peasants play on 4k on a non $3000 GPU? Blasphemy!!! Fuck'em. At least there are still folks like you out there who understand this bullshit and don't bootlick.

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[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

Not the newest game but still newer, but one of my biggest gripes is how much you need to be able to run the newest Ratchet and Clank. I'm lucky my steam deck can run it or I'd be screwed.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's a PS5-only game running on a portable device. Considering the state of a lot of ports (including this one at launch lol), it's a miracle that it runs this well.

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[-] butsbutts@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

there are fun games that dont require crazy gpus/monitors, you can enjoy + support those instead

[-] That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago

I've been a PC gamer for almost 30 years now. This perpetual march of buying new PC upgrades to play new games is an old song.

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[-] chunes@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

I can't believe how poorly most Unity games run these days. We're talking fairly basic 2D games that are struggling to run well on hardware from this decade. It's really pathetic.

[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Yup, this is what I'm fucking saying. I'm so sick of it. I'm so sick of this "you'll need a $3000 GPU to run a 4k game at 30 fps". Like what the actual fuck? Who asked for this?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

Games should be easier to run, with better modding tools. Simple as that, Morrowind with mods is still a fantastic time and it runs well on a Steam Deck, something we can carry around with us.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 6 days ago

Don’t worry - once you’ve upgraded everything the games are still the same yellow-markings-mean-climbable, branching-skill-tree, press-Y-to-Parry, level-gated-fetch-quests, enemies-drop-loot-that-is-not-as-good-as-what-you-already-have, collect-all-the-orbs nonsense your computer could already play.

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[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

I don't do much gaming these days, so my hardware isn't appropriate and this likely wasn't going to go anywhere anyways, but yesterday I had a quick thought whether I should buy Blue Prince and play it myself, before I watch someone else play it. And I kid you not, my first thought why I shouldn't buy it was "Nah, it's got 3D graphics, it's probably not going to run well".

I genuinely have no idea, if that even makes sense. The game uses cell-shaded graphics, so you probably could've implemented it on the PS1.
Well, except that it needs a fairly high resolution to be able to see some of the puzzle clues. And it's got soft lighting and whatnot. And the solo dev probably didn't spend their entire dev time optimizing for hardware as weak as mine.

I just thought it was funny that we've been doing 3D for 3 decades and somehow it's still relevant for my judgement how a game will run. 🫠

[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

100%. And this is my whole point. Why is it OUR problem not the devs problem? Why do I have to buy into expensive shit?

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