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It's always talked about in the media as if everyone cares, but I don't think I've ever heard a normal person complain.

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[-] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

i never did really care about income and property taxes (including vehicle related taxes), even though they can be a pain in the *ss. i believe they're a fair share of contribution to society, at least in the capitalist context that we live in. but it bothers me product taxes, especially those levied upon non-processed or low-processed food, medicine, basic hygiene and cleaning, basic clothing and products not produced in your country when said country doesn't have an industrial policy to encourage the production of these items internally.

[-] onTerryO@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Me? Not really. The people I hear complaining the most are those that:

  1. have no clue where their tax dollars go.
  2. are most likely to make use of government services, and complain the loudest if those services are changed or removed.
  3. think we pay FAR more taxes than every other country (am in Canada).
[-] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 weeks ago

A little, but not too much.

Flat taxes annoy me more than proportional taxes.

[-] monovergent@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm more or less forced to, how I wish I could pay it just like another bill rather than some complicated guess-and-file game.

I also want the government to give me an itemized list, to a reasonable extent, of where my taxes are going. As a thought exercise, I added "taxation theft" to my yearly budget, which I currently calculate as over a third of my taxes. That's my best estimate of the taxes I'm paying to bomb innocent civilians halfway across the globe, among other uses I would not approve of.

I wish I lived in a country that takes better care of its taxpayers so I wouldn't have to care about the tax I pay.

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[-] pebbles@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

I've not heard anyone ever complain about it other than in media.

Maybe you need to be more upper class to relate.

[-] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

We have a saying in my country: there's no point in complaining because nobody listens. I mean we are all paying so what's the point of moaning about it

[-] huquad@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Depends on the tax. Progressive income tax? I don't care so much. Flatter taxes like sales, property, gas, etc, I care about more because it affects the people at the bottom disproportionately. We only need a progressive income tax AND accountability at the top end for people to pay in. Tired of billionaires getting off free with loop holes.

[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

No (US). Those who loudly complain are generally conservatives who can’t understand how marginal tax rates and brackets work.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes. But I don’t complain about it. I do complain about wealthier people and businesses don’t pay taxes like I do.

[-] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not historically, no. Were my taxes always used properly? Probably not, but I believed in the overall system generically.

But since Trump's second term I've cut back significantly on Federal taxes I pay (I still pay State). I've converted some FTE-related income to 1099 and ceased paying quarterly and I've claimed 10+ allowances on W4 income to reduce taxes withheld.

I'm on a payment plan of $250/mo with the IRS and they most recently told me to just keep paying monthly as best I can.

Thing is, I owe far, far, far more than 100x that. So I guess they'll just never get all their money. I don't care.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago

In California, yes. Moreso because taxes keep rising but services keep dwindling.

[-] chonkyninja@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

You’re fucking high, California income taxes are very well structured. At $880k my taxes after deductions were like $30k.

[-] tleb@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

At $880k my taxes after deductions were like $30k.

I'm not American, is this a joke or do you really pay 3.5% effective tax rate?

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They probably have a really good tax guy, especially if they're making that much. Average is typically 15-30%, and it usually depends on how you go about your taxes. Depending on deductions, especially if you own a business, and the more you can pay a (high level) tax guy, the less you pay in taxes. It really do be like that.

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Disgusting.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Personal income, and even business income, absolutely agreed (my personal for the year was $10k or just shy of 10%, my corp tax was about $900, not bad at all). It's the other nickel and dimeing CA is famous for. Fuel taxes, property taxes because home values are now sky high, DMV fees, and then all your municipal taxes, and then all your varied county/municipal sales taxes, and plenty of others I'm not thinking of right now, and of which added together are exorbitant compared to other states. Now, don't get me wrong, you certainly get what you pay for in terms of great weather and good quality of life compared to other states, as well as many other benefits, but let's not pretend for a second that California isn't a fucking expensive place to live. I was born and raised here, I've lived elsewhere, and I am not leaving, but absolutely California is pricey.

[-] chonkyninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Cool story bro, move to Texas A.K.A. Fuck around and find out how high taxes get.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago
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