“The Israeli army said it bombed the house because there was a Hamas officer in there, which is totally false. I know the whole family. It’s nonsense. It’s just so devastating.”
So, this wasn't even a random bombing. It was 100^100% deliberate precise targeting.
It's not even shocking anymore.
I'm trying my best not to hate, but people gotta take notice. Straight up genocide and apartheid plus American money is paying for it. I understand some isrealies don't agree with the genocide and Hamas is kinda holding the Palestinians hostage, but dam it's a slaughter. It's easter passover and rammadan, so everyone will pray to justify going back to killing. Gotta love religion as politics to gain profit for those in control.
Israel locks 2.2 million Palestinians in a concentration camp
"Hamas is kind of holding Palestinians hostage"
How are people so blind to Israeli colonial efforts is beyond me..
Voted for Hamas is the issue, JFC what was happening 16 years before Hamas? Why is there a nakba in 47?
How did Israel become a country 70 years ago, on who's land?
These are questions that you superficially glossed over when blaming Hamas and somehow forgot the Israeli military machine commiting genocide for 16 months, adding to 70 years of unjust displacement because the West promised someone else's lands for zionists
They voted for Hamas and got a regime funded by Genocide Joe carpet bombing Palestinians in a concentration camp.
What does Hamas have to do with Israeli terrorism?
How uneducated are you? The last vote was done in 2006. The median of age in Gaza is 19. Half the people in Gaza weren't even born when those elections happened. Constant occupation and attacks from the colonial project israel and its right hand, the Palestinian authority, have forced Gaza into this situation, not free democracy.
Gaza would be absolutely buldozed if it wasn't for the military resistance from Hamas. Look at what is happening in the West Bank. Genocide and 70 years of opression mean resistance. That's what's happening.
Oh you apparently assume that jewish = supports israel. You're just like everyone else who conflates antisemitism and antizionism.
Israel conflates them. Then again Zionism is antisemitic.
Yes I am well aware that Israel conflates them. I am saying Cocopanda is just like the Israelis in this regard.
Can you explain how Zionism is antisemitic? That's quite a hot take.
Zionism is based upon the myth that everyone hates Jews and that Jews can’t live among other people. I am awfully summarizing what I heard an antizionist rabbi say.
Regardless of whether it is true or false that Jews are a target of hatred, it would not be antisemitic to think that they are. In other words, believing antisemitism exists is not antisemitic. (Personally, I believe antisemitism is absolutely real, but being anti-Israel is not antisemitism. For instance, the KKK excluded jews.)
I also think it's not antisemitic to think that Jews would benefit from a homeland of their own, despite the fact that antisemites helped create Israel. That's not the same as believing Jews cannot live among other people.
Whatever it may be, it should have never been made our problem and should have never been right in the middle of the Arab World. But there is a Christian Evangelical and European Colonial aspect to Zionism.
it should have never been made our problem
The cleaves between the faiths have exsisted there for thousands of years. Israel is a new power, but the participatory Abrahamic religions are not. Nor are most of the peoples there. Its best to remember European Jewish weren't the only peoples to build up Israel.
I think you've gone too far with your comment.
Moroccan, Indian, Iranian, Syrian, Yemeni, Ethiopian and Iraqi Jews are still settlers and not indigenous to Palestine. They are invaders, you give them a part of your country and leave us out of it.
Well yeah, but now you're saying something very different from what you were saying before. And I agree, Israel was a mistake. Unfortunately it's a problem that's hard to fix now.
No it isn’t. The Frankish invaders were expelled after 200 years. The French in Algeria were expelled after 100 years. Similar problems have already been solved twice before.
I would not say that is an easy solution. And I do not think people should be expelled from the place where they were born.
With how racist and supremacist Israelis are, they will probably leave on their own terms like the Boers did after the end of apartheid in South Africa. The idea of coexistence and normalization has been killed many times over thanks to the genocide. I used to advocate for it, now I don’t, I personally want them gone from the region.
I don't think I can agree with "I personally want them gone from the region" in any context unfortunately. Maybe some day I'll be disillusioned.
They aren’t violently occupying yours and genociding your people . It is easy to be generous and forgiving with someone else’s.
It creates hate for jews by hiding behind them and speaking in their name.
It is not a hot take.
You will probably find the following equally true statement even hotter: zionism is fascism.
Have some fun:
https://zionism.wtf/
I find "zionism is fascism" pretty sensible. Hot in the public eye, perhaps, but not such a hot take for me personally.
But your same argument goes:
I actually do agree insofar as there is a second-order effect that causes harm for some jews -- the Star of David is less popular than ever, now! What a shame Israel appropriated it for its flag! -- but I just can't bring myself to agree with the basic premise here. If your movement elevates one type of person over another, you can't be said to be against that type of person, even if you're scoring own-goals. In that case, you're just failing despite your intentions.
I said nor implied any of those things.
Yes I know. They are absurd sentiments. I'm observing that the same rationale behind "zionism is antisemitic" would also support those absurd ideas.
Will it matter to someone who lost most of their family? If not all of them? My family went through a genocide and I know how that anger can fester and grow into unhealthy behaviors. I’ve forgiven the monsters that murdered my family. But I doubt many people can really achieve this. As I took radical steps to see through the hate.
Keep your antisemitic bullshit out of this. And I say that as a very anti-Israel pro-Palestinian person. You're making it harder for us to bring Israel's atrocities to attention and be taken seriously. Fuck. Off.
No, and fuck you.
Israel will radicalize an entirely new generation from this genocide. If you don’t know what happens to people who lose entire families. Then I would suggest you read up on it.
Until Israel stops their genocide. No one will be safe.
I have experienced Genocide in my own family. Without the proper mental health care. It can become a very toxic and controlling part of your psyche.
But I have said this for 20+ years. Israel will never find peace if they are stealing land and murdering people in their sleep. Just look at the settlers. And what they are doing. This is what radicalizes these people.
Like I told friends who went to fight for the IDF. You’re really not helping by continuing the genocide.
I know what Israel is doing, and I know there will be consequences. Fuck you, for saying you'll kick back and "sip tea" while random Jews reap "karma". You're doing Israel's work for them. I spit on Israel, and I spit on you.
im sorry to upset you.
No you're not, your openly cheering on the murder of a demographic for the actions of a nation state. Even the unrelated ones. Even the ones fighting against it. You don't care, you just see all Jews on the planet as an acceptable target.
You're not sorry and you're not 'healed' as you like to claim. You are not ok. Ok people don't do this.
Bro. I’ve worked in anti-terror. I’m a dude that has spent time studying the IRA. I have seen first hand what happens to everyone within a demographic perceived as an enemy. Jewish might not all support it. But terror cells don’t give a fuck. Retribution at all costs. And after decades of trying to warn about this happening like Munich and other catastrophic mass casualty events. They are not getting my sympathy. It’s disgusting that they have murdered Emergency responders.
I live in reality man. I know what this Israeli government is trying to do. Because it’s the same thing the US did to legalize its war on terror in Afghanistan and Iraq. They let their citizens die to progress their hate. Just like they LET the Oct 20th attack happen. Israel wanted Hezbollah to get uppity.
And I'm at this point emotionally. Because they have outright lied about why they murdered emergency responders. Israel has effectively made it ok to kill anyone as long as you own the media narrative.
Israel isn't "Jewish people" though
But that’s who will sadly be targeted. Jewish in general. The domestic terrorists will lash out anywhere.
Don't you try this "sadly" bullshit you literally said you'll sip your tea and "have fun, jewish friends"
Cool story bro. But you still sat there and said you'd cheer on the murder of a mate of mine in Australia, who's never been to israel and in fact anti-zionist for the high crime of sharing a religion with someone you hate.
Bitch about your work all you want, you clearly learned fuck all from it.
In no way did I champion death. I just won’t get upset about it. I’m gonna be over here and just ignore it like I do all the other terrible things. Not my business. So I’ll just sip my tea.
fuck off, we should protect Jewish friends in our lives, even as we protest for palestine, because we have to crush racism whenever we see it.
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