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submitted 1 year ago by lntl@lemmy.ml to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml

German energy giant RWE has begun dismantling a wind farm to make way for a further expansion of an open-pit lignite coal mine in the western region of North Rhine Westphalia.

I thought renewables were cheaper than coal. How is this possible?

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[-] bigkix@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

When you shut down nuclear and start relying more on renewables (which are costly and suck) you end up using more coal. Green politics, FTW!

[-] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You fell for misinformation.

This is a small site. The owner of the wind turbines had to phase them out due to them being at the end of their lifespan. As there is coal under them. A deal was stipulated a VERY long time ago where when the wind turbines would have had to be removed, an expansion of a coal mine would be built there at the agreement that it will be dismantled by 2030. We are talking about "multiple years" time ago, before the 2030 deadline.

[-] bigkix@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I commented more on general production of energy in Germany... They did in fact recently shut down nuclear plants and upped coal energy production.

[-] Ooops@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, they didn't and you are still parroting lies.

The actual reality of replacing nuclear and reducing coal with renewables.

Also the historic low of fossil fuels after nuclear shutdown (those old reactors not able to react well to changes in supply/demand actually got already existing renewables shut down at times and indirectly increased fossil fuel use slightly...)

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[-] Ooops@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

The "costly" renewables that are actually so dirt cheap that nothing else can really compete and so lobbyists pay a lot of money to push a lie? Those renewables?

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[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

What a shame. One step forward, two steps back.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah, Germany, please never change. Those are the guys who claim nuclear is not clean enough.

Edit: Thanks guys, I can finally feel like Jesus - downvoted because I was telling the truth.

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