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submitted 22 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) by qaz@lemmy.world to c/buyeuropean@feddit.uk

Credit to https://www.reddit.com/user/lukakopajtic/

There might be some changes that could improve it further:

  • Remove Brave
  • Maybe add Signal; It's easier than Element, but it's also centralized
  • Stop suggesting Linux Mint specifically
  • Recommend Hosted Nextcloud
  • Add GrapheneOS
  • Maybe add Delta chat
  • Maybe remove Bluesky
  • Remove Stremio and add Jellfyin (even though it's selfhosted and not a direct equivalent)
  • Add ente because Immich is selfhosted

Any other suggestions?

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[-] Ruthalas@infosec.pub 14 points 20 hours ago

Where is my beloved son f-droid?

[-] qaz@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Droid-ify is an alternative frontend for f-droid

And IMO it's better

[-] ray1992xd@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago

Reminder: Stremio can use Torrents. Be aware of your local laws before enabling Torrent addons.

[-] ladicius@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago

Threema is a swiss based messenger which e2e encryption.

[-] proceduralnightshade@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago

Revanced is cool and all, but there are alternatives. One of them is Newpipe and its forks, it's my personal favourite. Pretty sure 95% of people here already know it. But fyi, they have their own associated little nonprofit organisation based in Germany, the Newpipe e.V., which I found out about only recently and thought was pretty neat.

[-] perry@aussie.zone 6 points 18 hours ago

Why is blue sky in the right side column? It’s the same thing as X.

[-] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 6 points 19 hours ago

The phrase about freedom and convenience in the OP image reminds me of what France's foreign minister recently said about Europe's relationship with the USA:

We are faced with a choice that is imposed on us, between effort and freedom, or comfort and servitude

[-] Foni@lemm.ee 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Nextcloud is not the same as Google Drive. Element is not the same as Netflix. Recommending bluesky as a replacement for X is at least misleading, it is neither European nor free nor is it anywhere near better than X.

Edit: Stremio comparison with Netflix wanted to say

[-] petrescatraian@libranet.de 1 points 12 hours ago

Yep, most things on that list are not drop-in replacements for these products at all, as you're supposed to change your behavior entirely. i.e.:

  • For Nextcloud, you have to self-host or to search for a provider. Nextcloud themselves aren't offering any cloud services;
  • Same for Element (which is Matrix);
  • Flashes is just Bluesky, but with only photos - these same photos can be posted on Bluesky directly.
  • ReVanced as an alternative to YouTube? You gotta be joking.
  • Stremio - if you're not looking for piracy, then this is not for you. But it's a nice touch though
  • Immich - you can only self-host it
  • Brave; Firefox - they're the lesser evil, yet they're still American
  • For Droid-ify - you gotta jump to Android first. If you want to stay on Apple, use Alt Store

Probably the most feasible things for the regular folk to jump to are Mastodon, PeerTube, Pixelfed, Lemmy (self-hosting is not mandatory), Jitsi, Ecosia, LineageOS (if they switch phones) and Linux Mint (or any flavor of Linux for that matter).

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[-] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 4 points 21 hours ago
[-] Roopappy@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I recently moved Gmail, Google Docs and Sheets, Google Keep (tasks) and Drive to Mailbox.org. It's super affordable and works really well. You can edit docs/sheets online or offline. No self-hosting required. I recommend it. It's located in Germany.

[-] iamericandre@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

Any good euro alternatives for adobe suite?

[-] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 9 points 21 hours ago

GIMP for Photoshop, Darktable or RawTherapee for Lightroom, Inkscape for Illustrator. For Premiere I was about to suggest DaVinci Resolve but it's Australian, not European / FOSS.

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 7 points 19 hours ago

Australia is in Eurovision, does that not count? :D

[-] lime@feddit.nu 6 points 21 hours ago

kdenlive is a foss video editor.

[-] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 1 points 19 hours ago

Ah yes, I could not remember its name!

[-] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago

I don't know where it's from, but Krita is always worth a look too :)

[-] iamericandre@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

I was looking for illustrator so thanks

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 3 points 21 hours ago

You may want to clarify which parts you want to replace. As a whole suite, there isnt anything I am aware of, but each individual part usually has one or more open source alternatives

[-] Herring@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

I use Nextcloud as a similar way as Google Drive or Google Photos. But it's self-hosted and not for the mass.

I would recommend a mail service for drive. Most are quite stingy with storage. Mailbox.org or Infomaniak.

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[-] crowbar@lemm.ee 1 points 16 hours ago

Why is no one mentioning Delta as alternative chat app? it is neat, has bots and mini apps, multi device too.

[-] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 1 points 19 hours ago

What's the alternative for gmail / Google calendar etc.

[-] skepller@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I think the biggest are the Proton and Infomaniak kSuite ecosystems. Both have free tiers afaik.

[-] F04118F@feddit.nl 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Yep, just switched to Proton (Swiss). Tutanota (German) is the other serious option for end-to-end encrypted, managed mail and calendar.

The main difference is that Proton offers a full "eco-system" to better compete with Google: besides Mail and Calendar, they offer an integrated Drive with automated photos backup on mobile, VPN, and private mail alias service (SimpleLogin) on their subscription.

I like it, but others prefer to spread their services among different. The price for the full package is similar to the price of Mail + VPN so you don't lose anything if you choose to use a NextCloud instead of their Drive, to better integrate with other open source apps for notes and photos.

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